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AndrewT1976 wrote:You are so right GUITAR IDOL. How many times do artists like Ozzy and film makers like Lucas need to re-release their work? Ozzy released these re-master versions of all of his albums in the mid-90's, then he did the remakes with Trujilo and Borden, and now (yet again) he is re-releasing it???

It's so obvious it's a money-making scheme. They can't just sell the DVD seperately???? Come on, right! I mean, here's the hard-working fans over the years that have spent money on tickets, albums, cassettes, cd's, downloads, and now they have to buy all of the stuff YET AGAIN just in order to get a DVD of additional unseen footage.

If Ozzy and Sharon really cared about their fans, and not just $$$$$ they would sell the DVD seperate.

Come on! An exact replica of the cross Ozzy used on stage??? Who cares??? Who even wants that thing??? Get a clue Sharon and Ozzy!

I'm sorry, but I'm really upset that so many of you fans will be spending $150 on this box set in the midst of a still terrible economy. Sharon and Ozzy do not care ONE BIT about their fans. Believe me. Ozzy pulls this fake "when Sharon had the albums re-recorded with Trujilo and Bordin - I was like, YOU CAN'T Do THAT Sharon!!" Yeah right. Ozzy and her were laughing the whole time!! All they do is lie, and here it goes...a bunch of very loyal and nice fans who are hard-working Americans will have to shell out yet again more $$$$ just to get a DVD.

i agree with you. There's ABSOLUTELY NO REASON they couldn't have also released a version with the 2 mastered CDs and the DVD. None at all.
They won't sell a lot of the box sets, the demand is just not there. This will appeal to only strict diehards, like a few of us that lurk around here.
They'll probably re-package this thing in a year from now with just the CDs + DVD or something like that.
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I've never met her, but I firmly believe that Sharon Osbourne is probably one of the most rotten people on this planet. I mean, come on, HOW MANY people say terrible things about her??? EVERYONE! So, are other people the problem or her??? You decide. They plotted this whole thing years ago, and have been waiting for the right time because you can never have enough $$$$$$$. Right Ozzy and Sharon??? Make sure you have TV shows and DVD box sets of your show, and merchandise, ring tones, TV appearances on Celebrity Apprentice, you own fashion line, just everything you can do to get even more rich, huh???? That's so awesome!!!! You are really going to benefit yourself from this $150 box set! More $$$$$$$$$!!! Yay for you! All the fans want is the DVD which should cost $20, so I hope you feel good about STEALING the other $130.
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halo8th wrote:i don't see them ever officially releasing that Irvine Meadows show in the U.S. Ozzy is downright horrendous in it on many levels. There's really no point in a release...it will sell a few copies but nowhere near what it would take to justify a release. The "Bark at the Moon" tour DVD from Salt Lake City 1984 is a far superior show and i don't see them ever releasing that either (although i'd love a nicer mastered, year 2011 cleaned up version..).

Irvine Meadows was done w/the Intention of MTV which aired I believe on Halloween 1982.It was But Ozzy worked w/Max norman Overdubbing on that
And IMHO ....THAT IS THE BEST,....BEST sounding Vocals from Ozzy on a "Live" recording! Mabey the Bootlegs have Ozzy "True Live" Vox on it & they were prob Horrible (but in fairness,he was in BAD Mental Shape Before & on that tour & his Vox were Very Hit or Miss on any given Night.Listen to the interview from Feb 82 Soundcheck..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWS6K96iIU
Ozzy explains a bit about how they were in Texas in a Semi-Outdoor Pavilion & it was the first Nice/Warm weather & they were in the Midwest Days Prior in Blizzard 20 Degrees weather then a warm place then Cold & that is Bad for Singers & breathing problems hence affecting his Vocals. Now you take that & add Ciggarettes,Alcohol & Cocaine ontop of that ,your Gonna have Vocal Problems :wink: Not to Mention the Rabies (Monkey Serum Vaccine) & what ever kinda Anti-Phychotics he was taking....its not too hard to get an Idea.
Then Randy Dies & his Drinking & Drugging Double up & you have Bad Vocals.

That & the SLC BATM Concert (I believe) were Officially released in Japan.I remember always seeing them listed in the "Import" Video section of Hit Parader in the 80s.Theyve Got Something Good in store for us,in reality we only saw LESS THAN 15 Seconds!! Just a Teaser!

Marketing Genius really,The Box & Track Listing were posted for a few Hrs,Dissappeared,then Returned Days Later w/New Track Listing & More detailed info,and in those few Days they Created Hype!!!
Thats Marketing,to go by...just Brilliant!!
There IS DEMAND And thats Proof!!

I posted the Edited 15 seconds & the extended Slo-Mo RR Clips from the Trailer last night at 2 in the morning its 3 the next day & there have already been 500 views between the two clips thats like 40 views an hour.
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halo8th wrote: It's so obvious it's a money-making scheme. They can't just sell the DVD seperately???? Come on, right! I mean, here's the hard-working fans over the years that have spent money on tickets, albums, cassettes, cd's, downloads, and now they have to buy all of the stuff YET AGAIN just in order to get a DVD of additional unseen footage.

If Ozzy and Sharon really cared about their fans, and not just $$$$$ they would sell the DVD seperate.

Come on! An exact replica of the cross Ozzy used on stage??? Who cares??? Who even wants that thing??? Get a clue Sharon and Ozzy!

i agree with you. There's ABSOLUTELY NO REASON they couldn't have also released a version with the 2 mastered CDs and the DVD. None at all.
They won't sell a lot of the box sets, the demand is just not there. This will appeal to only strict diehards, like a few of us that lurk around here.
They'll probably re-package this thing in a year from now with just the CDs + DVD or something like that.
I'm sure this will all happen after the buying public have gone out and bought the box sets or Diary Expanded disc etc. Then they'll be repackaged and sold as a Live 25th Anniversary Tribute to RR. With the Tribute album remastered by Max Norman in vinyl and cd. Do you see how they make money, sell the product and then sell it again until its rock bottom priced in the sales for £5.00 they have then squeezed every available penny from the product. The vinyl box set is only being brought out because vinyl is very fashionable again. How can they sell it to me ? I have the old vinyl the 45 Live versions EP etc the Ozzy posters.... the bootlegs. Errrmm i wonder whats in that dvd i wonder what the extras are ?. I wonder how many unseen pics of Randy are in that 100 page magazine ?. Like a bunch of fucking idiots who's going to buy it ? "All of us....If we don't buy it now we'll pick it up in the bargain box in 10 years time". How many times does that happen... you buy the box set when it comes out. Then you see it in the pre christmas sales for £10. You then feel like you've been robbed because we all want it now.
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AndrewT1976 wrote:They plotted this whole thing years ago, and have been waiting for the right time because you can never have enough $$$$$$$. Right Ozzy and Sharon??? Make sure you have TV shows and DVD box sets of your show, and merchandise, ring tones, TV appearances on Celebrity Apprentice, you own fashion line, just everything you can do to get even more rich, huh???? That's so awesome!!!! You are really going to benefit yourself from this $150 box set! More $$$$$$$$$!!! Yay for you! All the fans want is the DVD which should cost $20, so I hope you feel good about STEALING the other $130.
You seriously believe the SHIT you just wrote :shock: really :?: ..... so 24 years ago when they release "tribute" they thought we'll hang on to all this footage we have and one day we'll release it as a big set and charge shit loads for it and make some $$ :idea:

you do know that if they had release this "footage" along with "tribute" they WOULD have sold shit loads back then when people actually could ONLY BUY CD/VIDEOS right??? and when the people who liked ozzy music also loved randy rhoads and when ozzy was huge on the back of "the ultimate sin" .....but no we'll wait until the day that instead of buying it people will be able to download it for nothing once some fuckwit (probably like YOU...oh wait you won't buy it will you...you'll be the downloader) uploads it....sounds like a fuckin great plan to be :roll: :roll:
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Umm...yeah I believe that's EXACTLY what they did. They got a bunch of tapes and threw them into a pile and forgot about them for a long time cause Ozzy's career was taking off fast anyways...to PROVE this - look at the fact that they wanted to start playing shows like TWO DAYS after Randy died. That tells you the Osbournes are all about money.

And if you are willing to fork over $150 for this box set, then I hope you know that about $130 of it is truly being given to the Osbournes for something that they have been giving us all along.

And dude - please don't swear. It just seems really low class. Seriously. There is no need for swearing.

I wish you the best man. I do. But honestly - look at Sharon Osbourne. Do you think for ONE MINUTE she even really cares about anything other than money??? If the Osbournes had any class they would have released footage years ago because they knew Randy was such a huge influence.

They probably had NO INTENTION of ever releasing any of this footage until they finally had time to go back and "clean up" a few tapes and decided they could market the product to the hilts and charge $150 for something that costs $25 to manufacter.

I'm sure the footage will be great, I'm sure all the Randy fans will be happy, but YES - I really do believe with all of the sincerity of my heart that this is a MARKETING CONCEPT DERIVED BY THE OSBOURNES TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE FANS.

A MODEST approach would be to create a DVD of the concert footage and maybe re-release a bonus cd of new tunes and alternate versions.

I don't know, it just really makes me upset that they are charging this much for it. $150?????
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well honestly the price is way too high for me and believe me i would love nothing more than to see randy in action alternate takes "certain conversations"that went on in the studio etc..i hold nothing against sharon because if it werent for her ozzy would have died in that hotel and randy may have never been discovered the way we know him today...so if its 150 bucks fine i wont be buying it as soon as it comes out but i will wait for the hype to die down and look for the discount bin!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm with you Guitar Idol. I already own Blizzard and Diary on vinyl and cd. I really don't need it AGAIN just like everyone else who is buying this.

There will not be many fans buying this who don't already own the albums. We know this.

So why is 80% of the package old stuff that everyone already has??? Hmmm....
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sytharnia wrote:
AndrewT1976 wrote:They plotted this whole thing years ago, and have been waiting for the right time because you can never have enough $$$$$$$. Right Ozzy and Sharon??? Make sure you have TV shows and DVD box sets of your show, and merchandise, ring tones, TV appearances on Celebrity Apprentice, you own fashion line, just everything you can do to get even more rich, huh???? That's so awesome!!!! You are really going to benefit yourself from this $150 box set! More $$$$$$$$$!!! Yay for you! All the fans want is the DVD which should cost $20, so I hope you feel good about STEALING the other $130.
You seriously believe the SHIT you just wrote :shock: really :?: ..... so 24 years ago when they release "tribute" they thought we'll hang on to all this footage we have and one day we'll release it as a big set and charge shit loads for it and make some $$ :idea:

you do know that if they had release this "footage" along with "tribute" they WOULD have sold shit loads back then when people actually could ONLY BUY CD/VIDEOS right??? and when the people who liked ozzy music also loved randy rhoads and when ozzy was huge on the back of "the ultimate sin" .....but no we'll wait until the day that instead of buying it people will be able to download it for nothing once some fuckwit (probably like YOU...oh wait you won't buy it will you...you'll be the downloader) uploads it....sounds like a fuckin great plan to be :roll: :roll:

watch the japanese documentary on Randy, if you think Sharon does not care about Randy after watching that then you :shock:

You must figure we are probably getting 3 or 4 CD's worth of material ($15 a piece) = $40 at the low end
two vinyl albums - $15 a piece = $30
Book = $10
Ozzy cross = $0.00
DVD - $20

So theirs roughly $50.00 left over, take into consideration they had to repay to have the albums re-mastered, they probably spent some serious coin to touch up the video footage of Randy, among other things associated with this project dealing with Randy behind the scenes. It all adds up and i don't think they are going to be making much at all off it in the end(the actual boxset itself) The only reason i ordered it is out of respect for Mr.Rhoads and to show that there is interest in his stuff still. And i also believe as far as the box set goes it will be somewhat of a limited run, i doubt they are going to produces thousands after thousands of these.
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Bottom line... if you don't wanna buy it.. Don't!!!

don't piss on everyone else.

And if people realize it or not.. Ozzy still belongs to Sony. The "tour edition" CDs and so on... thats a record labels decision. The re-masters... thats a record labels decision. The "box set"? you guessed it. the odds are VERY HIGH that its... a record labels decision. And who knows... maybe, just maybe the Osbournes / Sony may have OVERPAID for this footage just because they know the fans want it. maybe just maybe it really is for us. You never know.

At the end of the day $150 is a bit much.. but I do think this release is for the fans.

just my opinion!!
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one more thing... on the trailer for LAST TRAIN HOME I belive that it was jake Duncan that said this. "I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE WEEP THE WAY OZZY WEPT THAT DAY" The whole ozzy and Sharon don't care talk gets old.
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Tito wrote:well honestly the price is way too high for me and believe me i would love nothing more than to see randy in action alternate takes "certain conversations"that went on in the studio etc..i hold nothing against sharon because if it werent for her ozzy would have died in that hotel and randy may have never been discovered the way we know him today...so if its 150 bucks fine i wont be buying it as soon as it comes out but i will wait for the hype to die down and look for the discount bin!!!!!!!!!!!
$haron had many years working and watching her late father Don Arden building his empire from nothing. Her business sense and knowing was her making and she knew Ozzy could make it as a solo artist.
It would be interesting to know how many people are buying this just for the Randy Live footage. The way it stands at the moment no one is really interested in the Ozzy music side of the vinyls the book or gold sprayed cross!!. Unless it is unheard tracks i.e RR solo, extended Tonight etc. So it is definately going to be well received by the RR fans alone. I'm saying to myself that we may be expecting too much from the dvd. Apart from the Palladium footage which we can safely say is definately a part of the set. Where does it say we are going to get some Live RR Diary tracks. When all we've seen are a couple of seconds of concert snippets. That trailer could fool alot of us into thinking it's going to be RR every other frame. If those are the best available pics of Randy from the footage its not selling itself very well. I know i'm sailing this one done the river like a viking funeral LOL!. But it makes sense to take off the blinkers and look at the bigger picture.
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GUITARIDOL5682 wrote: $haron had many years working and watching her late father Don Arden building his empire from nothing. Her business sense and knowing was her making and she knew Ozzy could make it as a solo artist.
It would be interesting to know how many people are buying this just for the Randy Live footage. The way it stands at the moment no one is really interested in the Ozzy music side of the vinyls the book or gold sprayed cross!!. Unless it is unheard tracks i.e RR solo, extended Tonight etc. So it is definately going to be well received by the RR fans alone. I'm saying to myself that we may be expecting too much from the dvd. Apart from the Palladium footage which we can safely say is definately a part of the set. Where does it say we are going to get some Live RR Diary tracks. When all we've seen are a couple of seconds of concert snippets. That trailer could fool alot of us into thinking it's going to be RR every other frame. If those are the best available pics of Randy from the footage its not selling itself very well. I know i'm sailing this one done the river like a viking funeral LOL!. But it makes sense to take off the blinkers and look at the bigger picture.
I Do agree with a lot of your statement. At the end of the day its about the DVD and the bonus tracks. Southampton was a HUGE plus... then it got deleted. Hoping they bring that back before its release.
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I guess I'll be the first to say that I've been a little negative about this, and I apologize. If all of you Randy fans are just like me, and love the man and his work, then we may STILL be hoping for something that is not able to satisfy our expectations.

Guitar Idol said it perfectly. This IS an Ozzy release. It's always been about Ozzy. Period.

That being said, I guess I just really have no empathy for record companies that put these box sets out. I guess just being a bassist in a band that put out an album (on an Independant label) and doing some touring and seeing the side of the "business" that I didn't think was cool (because all that was ever talked about was how to make money) put me in my old frame of mind.

That was my fault, and I apologize for raining on anybody's parade about this release.

I still have a huge gut feeling that Sharon and Ozzy have PILES of tapes from BOO and DOAM tour. I thought I specifically remembered Ozzy saying he "can't even watch all of the Randy tapes he has" because it's too painful. Come on guys, if there is tons of footage of Black Sabbath from several years before Ozzy (as well as almost every other significant rock band) then 1980-1982 surely has a lot on film too. Granted, "modern" video production was not easy or convenient, but I think there are definitely tapes upon tapes of footage that Ozzy and Sharon have.

I'm not too sure that I agree that they had to purchase anything either. That doesn't make sense to me.

I don't know. On one hand I'm really excited, but the kind of person I am - I am actually very focused on making sure consumers and fans don't get taken advantage of. When our band was on the road, I used to give some of our best fans stuff for free. Who cares? Just to see them get excited it was totally worth it. That's my philosophy...throw us (the fans) a bone. Put out 3 or 4 great Randy/Ozzy concerts for $20-$30 on a DVD box set. Now you're talking. None of this "Re-Release of a previously Re-Released" album stuff...
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axeman_12656 wrote: I Do agree with a lot of your statement. At the end of the day its about the DVD and the bonus tracks. Southampton was a HUGE plus... then it got deleted. Hoping they bring that back before its release.
That Southampton 1980 show could of been pulled in the interest of it being sold as a separate Live cd. Or it may have legal issues with it containing Bob & Lee's Live performance. They would be letting this out as an official release so the performers on it would want paid. Just like how Bob has those 'grail tapes' from the recording sessions. He cannot release those without the Ozzy camps OK. But, saying this how would of PM / Dakota been able to release the RR docu if it hadn't of gone tits up and Bob had handed those tapes over ?.
It would be interesting to know if Bob & Lee are getting a cutt from the sales of these reissues ?.
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