Kelly Garni & Romeo Rose - Randy Rhoads Trailer Blues

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:03 pm

romeorose wrote:To Matt,
... but you can't lead a horse to water you know.

I know how stubborn Horses can be!

Matt

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:14 pm

I bet Peter does too, he interviewed one! haha!

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:15 pm

Like I said this is about RANDY RHOADS, it's not about Peter & it's not about YOU.

I agree on that, but like I was trying to say in my last post, Peter needs to convince the Studio that his film will make their money back, plus interest and maybe some extra cash/publicity for the studio.

To do this Peter needs to have 3 years to make and edit the film for Sundance, that's probably his only good chance of doing this for the studio. The Studio isn't making the film for us, but to make money. Sure the fans do have some say, because if it's made all wrong, the fans wont watch it and the movie will flop.

I'm not surprised this film took 3 years to make either. Especially if there was no script, storyboard, production plan, shot lists, shooting locations, interview lists and plan of what they were going to do everyday for the next 3 years.

That stuff takes months to get sorted, without that the Studio would never let them go ahead I'd imagine. Even if he did have that by March 2007, he still had all the interviews to sort out. You can't film them one by one, day by day. Sure if there hadn't been so many we might've seen a bit more by now.

As to the 'Randy's window' and etc shots that seem pointless...shots like these can help the technical and emotional aspect of the film. they can be used to enforce a film technique and ultimately try and make the film look technically good.

And as to the money, you also might not realise how expensive just film and editing is. My media studies teacher at school (former Director and Producer) said the film for a short film that was to last 12minutes and have 70 shots...ended up with only 55 shots because they ran out of film. I don't think they had more than 60 minutes of film and it cost something like $12,000NZD (about $6,000USD).

And then editing is bloody expensive, to transfer the film to digital costs a fortune, then using an editing room is about $500USD an HOUR! Not to mention the cost for a full-time editor and 2 part-time editors.
Without all this money spent on things like that, we'd see the film much later then we already are.

I'm not necessarily having a go at you romeorose, just want to say that a film takes a lot more money and time then people think and that we can't be selfish with this film. It's the studio's money, and now also partly Peter's...we can't dictate exactly how this film will be made and when it will come out, and Peter can't really either, unless he convinces the Studio.

It's a business world out their, and it's all about money. It goes beyond us, beyond Peter. To suits who don't care about the fans as long as the film is critically recieved ok and makes the money required. That's all they care about.

Now that Steven Spielberg has made a fortune for Studios, he has a lot more say in to what he does, he can actually make films for the fans because he has the money and support.

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:25 pm

romeorose wrote:I bet Peter does too, he interviewed one! haha!

HA HA!!!! LMAO

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:27 pm

Still Peter should have released a official trailer a long time ago, I don't think that's too much to ask for. And Peter really needs to work on his people skills. The way he threatened people here at UR was in real bad taste & poor judgement. And he needs to stop telling lies, like when he said he was going to halt production of the film, he couldn't halt production if he wanted to, he's under contract with Delores Rhoads, they could sue him if he did. Peter just plays to many mind games and trys to manipulate the fans too much especially the people at TK, he's got them wrapped around his finger.

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:52 pm

Cpt Matt Sparrow wrote:
romeorose wrote:I bet Peter does too, he interviewed one! haha!
HA HA!!!! LMAO

Rob

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:18 pm

If Peter wants to contact me regarding the services of Horse Productions, he is very welcome.
They produced the RRCD Project with successful results

Matt

BIG_P · Post by **BIG_P** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:35 pm

romeorose wrote:, but you can lead a horse to water you know.

.....or you could just interview it.

What's up with that?

MrCrowley · Post by **MrCrowley** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:36 pm

romeorose wrote:Still Peter should have released a official trailer a long time ago, I don't think that's too much to ask for. And Peter really needs to work on his people skills. The way he threatened people here at UR was in real bad taste & poor judgement. And he needs to stop telling lies, like when he said he was going to halt production of the film, he couldn't halt production if he wanted to, he's under contract with Delores Rhoads, they could sue him if he did. Peter just plays to many mind games and trys to manipulate the fans too much especially the people at TK, he's got them wrapped around his finger.

Fair enough about the trailer I guess, i'm just not too fussy about one because I know trailers can be very misleading. Maybe Peter didn't want to waste time with one, not sure if you need a trailer for Sundance...maybe they had one planned for later down the road.

I'm glad you understand that Peter can get sued if he does something wrong with this film...such as releasing copyright protected material without permission. Even if the trailer turned out to have none (not sure if that's true or not), if the trailer did have copyright material, Peter could get sued, same with Dakota i'd imagine.

With the live footage stuff, if it does exist, I'd imagine it wouldn't be released with the film unless there are a few clips of it in the actual film. It'll probably be released with the DVD of the film...I would think that would boost sales the most and get the most money for Dakota.

But then again, if Peter secured the footage without having it under contract with Dakota, he could end up selling the DVD of the film with just bonus scenes and material, but then release the live footage as a seperate DVD that has nothing to do with Dakota. But I would have no clue about the legalities that Peter has with the Studio and what material is subject to Dakota pictures under contract. Actually I pretty much have no clue about much and am just throwing ideas around.

whoopiecat · Post by **whoopiecat** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:39 pm

...But those are some pretty good points, though, McL.

T.

BIG_P · Post by **BIG_P** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:42 pm

DAMN IT!! You guys beat me to my clever quip up above. Anyway....did he like literally interview this horse or...

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:45 pm

i was told the Blizzard concert DVD will be sold together WITH the documentary dvd.

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:51 pm

well i was told he found out about the woman that was horsebackriding and was a eyewitness to the crash, he spent alot of time & money & traveling trying to locate the woman, he never found her, but he did find the horse. i think he even filmed the horse, but maybe he didn't. all i know is he wasted time & money looking for that woman and all he found was the horse. alot of people are laughing at him for that one. it just goes to show how over the top obsessive he is with it all. which by itself would be fine, especially if you have a unlimited budget & unlimited time, but he dosen't. he spent all of the budget but $3,000 and that's probably gone now too. he's doing all these excessive interviews etc., more for himself as a fan, then he is for any other reason. like i said he went from being a fan, to film maker, to over the top obsessive fan again. nothing wrong with being a fan until you let it get in the way of the job you are trying to do, which he did. it would be nice if this film and concert could get released in our lifetimes.

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:51 pm

That is clever business too. If it was a seperate package many would buy one and not the other.

Matt

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:04 pm

yeah plus the live show with ozzy helps sell the documentary with randy