New hope for the 'Legacy'?

[Paul Wolfe]

Paul when i can be civil and take an apology, i wouldn't go running for back up. Or to get someone to fight my corner. Or in this case i think it would of been kinder to keep your mouth shut.

Good to know you are Facebook stalker.

"Man up and say it to my face on FB"? What? You know the "Face" in Facebook isn't the same as being face to face, right? I didn't go seeking 'back up', Frank is my friend and I simply contacted him to say, "What's up?" Which was in no way related to UR.

Obviously you have your point of view and I am fine with that. Keeping the fight going seems to be important to you, but it isn't to me, so I'll just call it a day on this one.

By the way, the smilies surrounding the first comment are to let you know I said it in jest. Hope you have a great day awy from the nonsense here.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Paul i was cool, it was you who spoke to Frank. I went to message Frank on FB to see what he had to say. So i wouldn't have to post him a PM on here as he hardly visits. Yeah Frank use to be a FB friend and a friend on here but like many other RR fans they have realised he's just another old friend who bathes in the glory in the inner click. I seen you had spoke to him on FB and i posted Frank's reply. The flames had been dosed mate it was Frank's cocky reply that sparked the response. I've got no beef with no one, but if they think they can go around kicking up the dust. I'll say my piece, big hard nut hiding on FB. Yeah right!! i'm fkn shitting bricks. Your comments are not liked Paul your a smug cunt. Read the last posts i put up i'd dropped the issue. Your just wanting to have the last word and trying to make me look like a cunt . I posted up the 'Frank in rescue of the bashed Paul' comment and you didn't like it. I'm glad Frank showed his true colours for once he's always been two faced.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Eyes left ...

Frank is my friend and I simply contacted him to say, "What's up?" Which was in no way related to UR.
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Frank Santa Cruz Hi Paul. I saw the attack dogs pile on you @ Ultimate Rhoads. I'm working on a fitting post. I'll give you a heads up when I do it.
Sunday at 03:51 via mobile

Paul Warren Wolfe: Thanks Frank! How's the real world treating you?

[frank]

hey paul...do you hear that sound? it sorta sounds like faint sniveling in the background, lol.

[randy will never die]

People stop fighting


I take a week off from this form and you people are still fighting


Get over your selfs

[chilinvilin]

hey paul...do you hear that sound? it sorta sounds like faint sniveling in the background, lol.

LMFAO

[RRforeveRR]

All of this over a man that didn't refect such personal values, how sad! I bet Randy is shaking his head up there, wondering what happened to his friends and fans. Poor dude!

[frank]

make no mistake. randy would have stood up for his family and friends.

[Sky]

Troy it isn't just the book i'm putting referrence too, it's anything with a RR tag on it in general. I can sympothise with you as i know your connections and we have discussed the shit storm behind the 'whys and reasons' even if it was all done in a correct way and no one was feeling ripped off or used. It would still be an item with no backing from the family. Thank God! Bob's book has got the thumbs up and it will be out shortly. It would of been cool to see the docu and other projects that have failed. But for now we just have to be grateful for what is out there.

Hi Shaun,
I haven't had time to look through the forum for a while and things seem to have got a bit personal. I may not agree with your views about Randy's family and what they should or shouldn't be doing for his legacy, but they're your views and you help to keep this site alive by posting them, and by sharing your knowledge about the original Blizzard band, shows and photographs. You always speak your mind and I'd defend your right to do so.
I first came to this site because I'd been banned from another one for speaking my mind on one occasion, I'd hate for that kind of repression of opinion to infiltrate this site. The other site died because of that kinda thing.
I don't know the Rhoads family but I do know that Randy loved every one of them and spoke about them all with great affection.
I don't know anything about other projects that didn't happen so I'm not sure why you think that the family have the desire or the power to block any new material coming out. I can only say that as far as Bob Daisley's book is concerned, no member of the Rhoads family has asked to see anything that he's written about Randy, and yet they've been supportive and friendly from day one.
If they changed their opinions about Margolis and Klein after initially trying to work with them on the RR film, I'm not in the least bit surprised but you know what I think of them and the way they do business.
Fans may or may not approve of the way the family choose to remember Randy and, as I've said, I think it's the fans' right to express their views on the forum, but it's also the family's right to honour Randy as they see fit because they knew the man and they know what Randy would want.
Deciding how to best commemorate someone you love dearly is hard at any time. I speak as someone who lost a partner to cancer a couple of years ago and I can honestly say that if I owned a vineyard I would plant a vine for my loved one, in fact I would plant a vine for all of my loved ones that have passed and turn each one of those vines into wine, I think that would be a beautiful, intoxicating way to celebrate their lives. It may not be to everyone's taste but I'm with Randy's sister on that one.
Here endeth the rant!

Cheers, from a soon to be intoxicated Sky..

PS. Didn't say pissed because americans seem to think that means angry for some reason... Weird!

[meadsie]

Nicely put Sky.

[Paul Wolfe]

make no mistake. randy would have stood up for his family and friends.

I always got the impression, from interviews and whatnot, that Randy rarely wavered in standing behind what he believed in. I also got the impression that he didn't like confrontation, so he chose his words in an effort to avoid conflict when possible.

Case in point: the guitar clinic thing from Pittsburgh (right? or am I WAY off?):

What do you think of Angus?

Angus Young? I think what he does, he does great. He’s so into it.

Tony Iommi?

I didn’t know too much about Black Sabbath when I met Ozzy.

I know he really didn't like Black Sabbath, but rather than say that he simply made a comment that let him off the hook. As for Angus, I can't tell what he thought of Angus from that reply. Yet he's not negative about the guy at all.

It'd be nice if I were better at choosing my words before replying and not letting anyone goad me into a fight. Then again it'd be nice if no one saw a reason to pick a fight over our personal feelings about Randy Rhoads. It's as bad as fighting over whether or not you like broccoli and what's wrong with you if you don't.

And Sky, we Americans think "pissed" means getting angry because that's what it means! You silly folks outside the States and your weird twisting of OUR language, you probably call soccer 'football', too, huh? I'll forgive you, though

[shawn]

Troy it isn't just the book i'm putting referrence too, it's anything with a RR tag on it in general. I can sympothise with you as i know your connections and we have discussed the shit storm behind the 'whys and reasons' even if it was all done in a correct way and no one was feeling ripped off or used. It would still be an item with no backing from the family. Thank God! Bob's book has got the thumbs up and it will be out shortly. It would of been cool to see the docu and other projects that have failed. But for now we just have to be grateful for what is out there.

Hi Shaun,
I haven't had time to look through the forum for a while and things seem to have got a bit personal. I may not agree with your views about Randy's family and what they should or shouldn't be doing for his legacy, but they're your views and you help to keep this site alive by posting them, and by sharing your knowledge about the original Blizzard band, shows and photographs. You always speak your mind and I'd defend your right to do so.
I first came to this site because I'd been banned from another one for speaking my mind on one occasion, I'd hate for that kind of repression of opinion to infiltrate this site. The other site died because of that kinda thing.
I don't know the Rhoads family but I do know that Randy loved every one of them and spoke about them all with great affection.
I don't know anything about other projects that didn't happen so I'm not sure why you think that the family have the desire or the power to block any new material coming out. I can only say that as far as Bob Daisley's book is concerned, no member of the Rhoads family has asked to see anything that he's written about Randy, and yet they've been supportive and friendly from day one.
If they changed their opinions about Margolis and Klein after initially trying to work with them on the RR film, I'm not in the least bit surprised but you know what I think of them and the way they do business.
Fans may or may not approve of the way the family choose to remember Randy and, as I've said, I think it's the fans' right to express their views on the forum, but it's also the family's right to honour Randy as they see fit because they knew the man and they know what Randy would want.
Deciding how to best commemorate someone you love dearly is hard at any time. I speak as someone who lost a partner to cancer a couple of years ago and I can honestly say that if I owned a vineyard I would plant a vine for my loved one, in fact I would plant a vine for all of my loved ones that have passed and turn each one of those vines into wine, I think that would be a beautiful, intoxicating way to celebrate their lives. It may not be to everyone's taste but I'm with Randy's sister on that one.
Here endeth the rant!

Cheers, from a soon to be intoxicated Sky..

PS. Didn't say pissed because americans seem to think that means angry for some reason... Weird!

Quoted in full because you make to much god dammed sense, well said, I would be happy raise a bottle or two in your honour for the above.

[hansolo]

"All of this over a man that didn't refect such personal values, how sad! I bet Randy is shaking his head up there, wondering what happened to his friends and fans. Poor dude!"
"make no mistake. randy would have stood up for his family and friends."

Wow a few pile ons idol, huh? I know he knows what he is talking about and has given me and others on here some great advice. I also got into a thing with idol at first but I was shooting my mouth off (keys) and eventually you say sorry or whatever and laugh it off.

This is a venue to talk. Yes, what is said is forever on the internets, etc. but the majority of the public don't know who Randy, don't care and never will. I doubt authorities will have to hack into here to retrieve what someone posted. I do love the mentally here, it makes me feel like a school boy on the playground. Randy never had the internet, he did understand when you are on TV you should be respectful and say nothing bad but what has he said in private with a friend? He wasn't an angel and IMHO he ain't looking down from heaven because that is silly along with, god needed him or he's in gods band, etc. Frank, are you implying Randy would have stood up for his friends and family NOT putting stuff out after he was dead. Randy would be cool with her sister selling alcohol with his name on the bottle? At the end of the RR japan tribute, Deloris shows the host some music notation that Randy was working on which she called "Advanced music theory" and to me, that would be worth of Randy's name. That is the heart of the matter. I wish I could go back and say, hypothetically you die tomorrow, would you want any QR stuff out? music or old lessons? Live videos? Ozzy? You have fans but there is very little. No one can speak for Randy. Period. Don't make me get my mommy...

[RRforeveRR]

I didn't make the above comment in reference to anyone in specific, it was in general, overall- even though it would appear a dig on both sides. I've known people that have been in the so called "clique" or "inner circle" and the parculiar thing about it is that "clique" should be plural, not singular. Randy had a lot of friends, A LOT- and everyone that knew that man all had generally the same thing to say- "non-confrontational" "peaceful" "radiant" "driven" etc- the friends and family are very protective of Randy, but many don't have much else positive to say about others that knew Randy also. Just a random observation. For example, I would consider saying that Randy may have been the glue that held QR together- he and Kev were close, he was close to Kelly and he was close to Drew, too- but none of those men got along readily over the years, did they?

And Hans, I'm sorry if my reference to "looking down" offended you, but it didn't necessarily mean heaven, I believe in life after death myself- religion aside, so it could very well be that the spirit of Randy may be at a higher vantage point somehow watching the drama unfold. Now, go get your mommy!! (;

[hansolo]

Awesome. I'm all for a heaven but I currently don't buy it. No, I wasn't offended, no one should be. I did put the IMHO before it. People shouldn't be offended by opinions but sometimes something hits home to people, they can't believe something shocking. Like traveling a great lengths for jobs and someone stops them and says there are no jobs, they just came from there. The people on the way there are ready to kill this guy. He was just warning them. That was from the Grapes of wrath.

I just wanted to make the point that we can't answer for anyone. Randy didn't know he was about to die when he gave statements like not wanting the QR stuff out. So, I see Randy in heaven Randy, (pleasantries) Randy how did you feel about the QR stuff? "It wasn't very good. I didn't want the kids to have that but I wanted to do so much more." Okay, that was a bit silly but how is a person supposed to know or react to their death before it has happened? Just the way he died, so young. I guess part of me wants a 'new album' because I didn't believe it when I first heard the news...