New hope for the 'Legacy'?

[Paul Wolfe]

What legacy is left to make available to any fans. why do 'you' think that Ozzy has a vault full of unseen footage and other rare shit ?. If he had anything he would of used it ages ago. Remember him viewing the unseen Paladium footage...he was in awe he's never seen a Live gig with Randy on stage.. Or was he just bigging it up for the camera ?. The Rhoads have nothing to offer apart from making Randy's personal items available for viewing. Unless you want to own a bottle of expensive wine what do they have to offer us. They don't have anything of any rarity as far as the music goes. Shit they even took the authors of a great book to court. Why!! they are doing something good for the RR community i think the family want to realise that his legacy will be forgotting if it wasn't for people like me and you plugging his name on this site. Remember its cool to visit this site but if you don't post stuff up. the site will go just like TK.. dull and not happening. Or has that already happened ???.

This place will die due to the negative attitudes of the membership, just like tk did.

NO ONE here knows what the Osbournes have. They use what they want to use, they don't need Randy to keep the ship afloat anymore.

As for the Rhoads family, the same thing goes. People love to say what they do and do not have, but none of you actually know what they have. As always the 'fans' don't deserve anything because they spend too much time demanding and talking crap.

If I were Kathy D'Argenzio, I wouldn't spend even one moment considering giving anything more to the membership of this site. There could be all kinds of demo/rehearsal stuff in Randy's bedroom, not to mention his lesson tapes and writings. Why should any of that be shared when people talk s#*t about her wine? She's a wine maker and she presented a tribute to her brother in a manner she was capable of. If she'd been a painter, would there be bitching about her selling a painting she made of him? You'll pay hundreds for a scrap of paper Randy signed or a ticket stub, but won't pay $60 for a tribute made by the guy's sister.

This news story made me think of this place that I've spent so much time at over the years, unfortunately, the negative here outweighs the positive for me and it's just not much fun anymore.

[Cryptic Night]

I have to agree with Paul about the negativity here. There's been a sharp decline due to it. I used to log in and see plenty of people posting around here, now I see maybe a post or two. Same with RR.tk

I am 100% positive that the Osbournes at least have some personal footage of Randy (I believe this was proven in some Sharon Osbourne interview from Lifetime or something like that, but I remember there being a birthday clip featuring Randy), but I don't expect them to release that kind of stuff, even if I would like to see it to see what Randy "the person" was like.

[randy will never die]

Why can't we be friends why can't we be friends .........

[GUITARIDOL5682]

This site always goes quiet when nothing is being released. The only time it gets active is when a rare item, or possible footage may be released. It's only the new fans who are asking questions. The old fans have died out and don't want to keep logging in here to see no new info, photos etc..
As far as the Rhoads contributions to his legacy.. what are they?...Like Paul says they don't have to contribute nothing. But i'm sure Kelle can promote a few of his cd's when he does his next RR interview. Or if Kathy keeps posting up adverts in her winery that she's having another RR wine tasting, to pull the crowds in.. It's a good marketing tool for her. If she wasn't related to Randy she'd just be another wannabe wine shop owner.
As far as speculating that Ozzy may have unseen material or some gems locked away. Is it just me or can i understand that he was handed those 2 lots of live footage for the anniversary boxset during the search for material for the PM docu. They didn't come from his vault. $haron did mention they had footage and she did mention the outakes from the Blizzard recordings. Obviously Bob's grail which didn't happen. The only thing that could possibley happen is the Southampton 1980 gig. But not without the ok from Bob & Lee. The same wrangle Bob has for releasing the 'grail tapes'. So another door closes, speculate 'til the cows come home, but what does Ozzy have in his vault ?. As far as RR's bedroom holding secret treasure you'd be wishfully thinking you'd ever see any contents from that room. Unless Delores passes away and they decide to have a garage sale. Dream on please!! The legacy is going no where..

[CanuckRhoadsFan]

What legacy is left to make available to any fans. why do 'you' think that Ozzy has a vault full of unseen footage and other rare shit ?. If he had anything he would of used it ages ago. Remember him viewing the unseen Paladium footage...he was in awe he's never seen a Live gig with Randy on stage.. Or was he just bigging it up for the camera ?. The Rhoads have nothing to offer apart from making Randy's personal items available for viewing. Unless you want to own a bottle of expensive wine what do they have to offer us. They don't have anything of any rarity as far as the music goes. Shit they even took the authors of a great book to court. Why!! they are doing something good for the RR community i think the family want to realise that his legacy will be forgotting if it wasn't for people like me and you plugging his name on this site. Remember its cool to visit this site but if you don't post stuff up. the site will go just like TK.. dull and not happening. Or has that already happened ???.

This place will die due to the negative attitudes of the membership, just like tk did.

NO ONE here knows what the Osbournes have. They use what they want to use, they don't need Randy to keep the ship afloat anymore.

As for the Rhoads family, the same thing goes. People love to say what they do and do not have, but none of you actually know what they have. As always the 'fans' don't deserve anything because they spend too much time demanding and talking crap.

If I were Kathy D'Argenzio, I wouldn't spend even one moment considering giving anything more to the membership of this site. There could be all kinds of demo/rehearsal stuff in Randy's bedroom, not to mention his lesson tapes and writings. Why should any of that be shared when people talk s#*t about her wine? She's a wine maker and she presented a tribute to her brother in a manner she was capable of. If she'd been a painter, would there be bitching about her selling a painting she made of him? You'll pay hundreds for a scrap of paper Randy signed or a ticket stub, but won't pay $60 for a tribute made by the guy's sister.

This news story made me think of this place that I've spent so much time at over the years, unfortunately, the negative here outweighs the positive for me and it's just not much fun anymore.

While I see your points here, Paul, and you DO have some valid ones, I don't think you can blame people (fans) solely for being negative about Randy-related material. It seems everything related remotely to Randy ends up with a taint to it in some fashion. Either someone uses his name and image in some way that is odd or unnecessary, there's a lawsuit, or people want to hoard the item(s) like they are treasure. It's all very frustrating, and people get tired of the same drama, over and over, every time something new arises, no matter what it is.

As consumers, and fans, I guess you could say we aren't "owed anything", which is true, but on the other hand, if people are offering things up to buy, then it's well within the consumer's rights to express how they feel about the product and its quality. If you're offering up a product for public consumption, understand that not everyone is going to love it. It's all part of the game.

There's no doubt this place has slowed down, as has .tk, but again, it's because people are tired of all the nonsense. It's sad, but it seems to be the way of all things Randy-related. As a Randy fan, I've come to expect nothing - that way I'm not disappointed when nothing new emerges, and I'm pleasantly surprised when something does. It is what it is.

[guitarsteve]

Here's how I see it and feel about it.. when I want to hear Randy, I put on his music and listen. When I want to see Randy I look at a magazine... maybe reread the article for the umteenth time... or watch Afterhours again. And if I really want to feel the magic of Randy I pick up a guitar and play Randys music or try to cop some of his technique and just play. If I never see another piece of new video footage or never hear another previously unreleased track... I'm ok with that. I'm thankful for the legacy we've ALL shared these last 30+ years. I'm glad this site is here for all of us to talk about him. That's enough for me anyway.... just sayin

[CanuckRhoadsFan]

Here's how I see it and feel about it.. when I want to hear Randy, I put on his music and listen. When I want to see Randy I look at a magazine... maybe reread the article for the umteenth time... or watch Afterhours again. And if I really want to feel the magic of Randy I pick up a guitar and play Randys music or try to cop some of his technique and just play. If I never see another piece of new video footage or never hear another previously unreleased track... I'm ok with that. I'm thankful for the legacy we've ALL shared these last 30+ years. I'm glad this site is here for all of us to talk about him. That's enough for me anyway.... just sayin

Quite right, guitarsteve.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again (and it is what Steve says), it's the music that remains, and is ultimately the "legacy"....it's the most important thing, more than footage, etc. While I want that stuff as much as the next fan, given the way things Randy-related are handled, we still have the music, and that's huge.

At the end of the day, the music is the most tangible "Randy product" out there.

[oth]

"Like Paul says they don't have to contribute nothing. But i'm sure Kelle can promote a few of his cd's when he does his next RR interview. Or if Kathy keeps posting up adverts in her winery that she's having another RR wine tasting, to pull the crowds in.. It's a good marketing tool for her. If she wasn't related to Randy she'd just be another wannabe wine shop owner. "

Now thats a classy statement.
You should heed your first sentence.Unlike some fanatics here,their lives dont revolve or depend on rr trivia,conjecture and whatnot.To think that kathys winery wouldnt exist or thrive without rolling out an RR edition once a decade or whatever is absurd.To make a comment like that is the reason why they shouldnt interact with fanatics.If they give a little they still get pissed on.How sad and discouraging it must be to see that their brothers memory can bring vitriol against them.Its beyond ironic-maybe a little sick and also what descibes fanatic.

Ive always felt you can slag some of the players maybe but hands-off the family.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Oth... that is my take on what the family are doing to keep his memory alive.. I've promoted Randy more then any one of those could ever do. It's the living in the shadow of someone famous which boils my piss. Yeah they are family but its sad and too much of a gimmik to have to rely on a dead relative to promote your own material. I don't see it as a tribute or a time to remember its purely done to make money.

[CanuckRhoadsFan]

Oth... that is my take on what the family are doing to keep his memory alive.. I've promoted Randy more then any one of those could ever do. It's the living in the shadow of someone famous which boils my piss. Yeah they are family but its sad and too much of a gimmik to have to rely on a dead relative to promote your own material. I don't see it as a tribute or a time to remember its purely done to make money.

...and this is your opinion, Guitaridol5682, which you are completely entitled to. Don't let anyone else sway you if that's what you think. For what it's worth, I think you too have a valid point here.

[Cryptic Night]

In my opinion (Which means jackshit to everyone, I'm sure) Kathy is fine by me. She made something, out of love for Randy, her brother. I think it's a sweet tribute personally.

As far as Kelle goes, I'm sure he's a good guy, but he seems to rely WAY too much on Randy's fame to help build himself up.

Kathy isn't going for stardom, she just wants to sell wine and made a tribute to Randy. Kelle on the other hand, seems to plug his stuff into interviews about Randy all the time. That's what bothers me most about Kelle.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Well i can see my opinion is the same as others, answer my question. What have the Rhoads family done in the last 30 years to make any mark on RR's legacy...Over priced guitars, wine, a failed documentary and allowing people to visit musonia.

[Tito]

not a damn thing..ill say it...carry on..

[oth]

Well i can see my opinion is the same as others, answer my question. What have the Rhoads family done in the last 30 years to make any mark on RR's legacy...Over priced guitars, wine, a failed documentary and allowing people to visit musonia.

So what are they supposed to do,roll out his corpse and parade it down the street?The family are not movie producers or a circus caravan.
They welcome people for tours at musonia,interviewed for a 20th anniv movie and countless other publications.There is only so much they can provide but fanatics are never satisfied.After a while the law of diminishing returns kicks in and it becomes apparent and more prudent to abstain from giving more.People need to be more respectful and be happy with the music and whatever else you get is gravy.But dont scream for more gravy.

[rhoads56]

When it comes down to it, the Rhoads family owe us nothing. They have already given us their most prized possession.