"Loose change 911" ?
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"Loose change 911" ?
I watched "loose change 911". Altough they really overlooked some things(imo), for sure they came up with some interesting questions which are not answered yet.
I've also seen another documentary about the collapsing of the buildings and (to me) they gave a good scientific explanation how those two steel construction could collapse. It all made sense imo.
Though while I was trying to find something more about this subject I stumbled on this: http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/World_Tr ... nferno.htm One can see a picture of a woman standing in the impact hole of the North tower and waving for help...... There is also a vid from it. There are pics of it from different angles so it looks not to be fake. Never seen those images before. And for sure this stuff made me wondering, are those pics fake? And if not, how hot was that fire then? Those pics looks very surreal to me...... maybe some good photoshop work? What do you guys think?
I've also seen another documentary about the collapsing of the buildings and (to me) they gave a good scientific explanation how those two steel construction could collapse. It all made sense imo.
Though while I was trying to find something more about this subject I stumbled on this: http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/World_Tr ... nferno.htm One can see a picture of a woman standing in the impact hole of the North tower and waving for help...... There is also a vid from it. There are pics of it from different angles so it looks not to be fake. Never seen those images before. And for sure this stuff made me wondering, are those pics fake? And if not, how hot was that fire then? Those pics looks very surreal to me...... maybe some good photoshop work? What do you guys think?
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So they are saying the burning stopped but the smoke continued? Smoke is a by-product of fire. Something that burns 100% will have no smoke - i.e. flash paper used by magicians. Something that is burning but no 100% consumed by the fire will produce smoke.After burning for a short time, black smoke continued to pour from the WTC 1 until it collapsed.
To me this says that the building which was pouring out black smoke was burning internally.
I believe that what we saw that morning is what happened. No one questioned it then, but the people angry about the Iraq war have decided to accuse the Bush administration of a conspiracy. Politics in the USA are full of a bunch of power hungry, rich bastards who want control of everything. THe whole conspiracy is about gaining controll of the government.
Remember the Clinton years and wanting to impeach Clinton for lying about sex? Regardless of who is the next president, someone will cook up a way to discredit him (or her

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Below pictures show there was for sure a huge fire......
To me the official explanation of how the two towers could collapse still holds btw. (**)
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005 ... t-area.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/ ... y/wtc1.jpg
And this clip: http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005 ... -close.avi
Yep, there is a lot of "Elvis is still alive" kind of bullshit about 9-11 comming up. But still I think there are lots of valid questions unanswered.
For instance how could that WTC 7 building collapse? It wasn't even hit by an airplane! The only way I can think of is to use explosives to get that done. And maybe there was some kind of explosive material in that building? Caused by the diesel-powered generators? It's really a miracle that building could collapse!
Btw if the JFK assassination happened today no way they would get away with that 'magic bullet' theory.
And the collapse of that WTC 7 building reminds me a bit of that "magic bullet" .....
**after seeing this documentary I'm not sure anymore: 911 Mysteries - Demolitions
it's a bit long but really worth seeing imo......
To me the official explanation of how the two towers could collapse still holds btw. (**)
http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005 ... t-area.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/ ... y/wtc1.jpg
And this clip: http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005 ... -close.avi
Yep, there is a lot of "Elvis is still alive" kind of bullshit about 9-11 comming up. But still I think there are lots of valid questions unanswered.
For instance how could that WTC 7 building collapse? It wasn't even hit by an airplane! The only way I can think of is to use explosives to get that done. And maybe there was some kind of explosive material in that building? Caused by the diesel-powered generators? It's really a miracle that building could collapse!

Btw if the JFK assassination happened today no way they would get away with that 'magic bullet' theory.
And the collapse of that WTC 7 building reminds me a bit of that "magic bullet" .....
**after seeing this documentary I'm not sure anymore: 911 Mysteries - Demolitions
it's a bit long but really worth seeing imo......
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Here another two very interesting documentaries:
September 11th Revisited: Were explosives used?
911 = Demolition Experts are Speaking Up Against the Coverup
The documentary which I think is most reliable (here are really some 'facts' investigated):
Zembla - 9.11.2006 - Investigates 9/11 Theories - Dutch w/ English Subs
THIS ONE (brand new documentary) IS A MUST SEEN:
9/11: Press for Truth ......
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September 11th Revisited: Were explosives used?
911 = Demolition Experts are Speaking Up Against the Coverup
The documentary which I think is most reliable (here are really some 'facts' investigated):
Zembla - 9.11.2006 - Investigates 9/11 Theories - Dutch w/ English Subs
THIS ONE (brand new documentary) IS A MUST SEEN:
9/11: Press for Truth ......

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I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do think that what happened in NY in September 2001 gave some people an excuse to do what they wanted.
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I'm quit sure they let it happen.... the evidence of that is overwhelming. See "press for truth" above, they talk about facts there which can be verified, no bullshit.Trigger wrote:I am not a conspiracy theorist but I do think that what happened in NY in September 2001 gave some people an excuse to do what they wanted.
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I don't think we will see the real truth in our life times! what really happened will be told in hundreds of years time when it has no relevence anymore. 

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alright, settle down. I know everybody loves a good conspiracy plot. The M.O. is always the same. after about 3or 4 years these things start. They did it with the JFK assassination too. check this link and take your time and read this and use common sense. Play particular attention to the BUILDING 7 section and please note the photo that shows damage to the first 18 STORIES to that building. What happened that day is what you saw on LIVE TELEVISION. DONT FALL FOR THIS LUNACY. CASE CLOSED.
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm