Bob Daisley's grail stuff.

[axeman_12656]

I saw Tommy with Ted Nugent in 2000 and couldn't take my eyes off him. Not that he is hott or anything.. lol.

He has been playing for 3 or 4 decades and his image and look have never changed.

[Stiltzkin]

He has been playing for 3 or 4 decades and his image and look have never changed.

exactly. the buzz of hair on top of his head has grown bigger though

but yeah, he has maintained a pretty high profile since the early '70s and
that says alot

[electricmombie]

It's just such a shame that Ozzy and Sharon are determinedly-ignorant to how integral Bob Daisley's and Lee Kerslake's contributions remain. How often do "session" musicians co-write MUCH of the material, musically and lyrically? When Bob and Lee were sacked after the recording 'Diary Of A Madman', Sharon and Ozzy were trying to trying to get in the black rather than the red, and they (wrongly) assumed that removing 1/2 of the songwriting and performing chemistry wouldn't be noticed. Bob Daisley is a much better bass player than Rudy Sarzo and Lee Kerslake plays more in-the-pocket than Tommy Aldridge does. I have a newfound re-appreciation for Bob and Lee as live musicians after getting to know the live 10/22/80 Chelmsford Odeon gig, as well as the 9/23/80 Manchester gig. Bob Daisley's bass parts play like orchestral arrangements: supplying a sturdy bottom end, but also filled with tasteful runs up the bass neck and back down, to accentuate the tightness of the Blizzard Of Ozz band. Lee Kerslake likewise plays with the band in the mind, as well.

While I grew up listening to the 7/28/81 Montreal 'King Biscuit Flower Hour' gig as well as 'Tribute' and the 4/28/82 Memphis Colisseum gig radio broadcast gig with Brad Gillis on guitar, the more I hear of Bob and Lee playing live with Randy and Ozzy, the better the band I think they were.

I mean, Try to imagine 'Blizzard' or 'Diary' recorded with Tommy and Rudy: these two albums wouldn't be what they are. Bob Daisley in particular has proved himself to be integral to Ozzy's stuff over and over again. Recording and touring for 'Bark At The Moon', writing for 'The Ultimate Sin', writing and recording 'No Rest For The Wicked', playing on 'No More Tears' and being in on the aborted sessions for the X-Ray project with Ozzy and Steve Vai.

Ozzy and Sharon are rich enough now. Pay Bob and Lee what they are owed. Enough of the bull****. Bob and Lee were and are as important as Ozzy and Randy. Chemistry as a band.

Ozzy and Sharon's selective memories and ignorance kept the 30th Anniversary boxed set from being more genuine and honest. Now that I have bootlegs of all sorts of stuff and the like, I don't mind as much that Sharon is a greedy wench and that Ozzy goes along with her, for the dough. It's just such a shame that all of them can't band together and do the right thing. Ozzy's songs have suffered from Bob's songwriting and musical absence. For all of Ozzy's claims of beinga solo artist, the Blizzard Of Ozz was a band. Ozzy is 1/4. Randy 1/4. Bob is 1/4 and Lee is 1/4. 'Nuff said. Peace.

[AndrewT1976]

Electricmombie....totally perfectly stated. I agree 100%.

[AndrewT1976]

And YES - Lee was definitely more in the pocket and really grooved. THE GUY WROTE ALL THE DRUM PARTS TO BOTH ALBUMS.

[The Flying Dutchman]

Seen him a couple times live (with Whitesnake & Malmsteen)

wait, when did he play with Malmsteen?

Yep, already long ago, saw him with Yngwie somewhere in the nineties. Great gig btw!
It was in a concerthall called 'Paradiso' (sort of rebuild church) in Amsterdam were most bands usually sound like sh*t...... Yngwie's band sounded real good though, his band always sounds good as it seems. No matter where they play.

Did some search: http://www.whitesnake.f9.co.uk/Aldridge.html
"He also toured with guitar wizard Yngwie Malmsteen (1995-1996) but the two of them fell out whilst touring."

What I heard he was fired by Malmsteen because he wasn't tight enough!

[electricmombie]

Thanks AndrewT.

What cracks me up some, is How Ozzy can get up there and sing them Bob-era lyrics without it hitting him how if he never worked with Bob, he wouldn't have those lyrics to sing at all? And Yet continue to act as if Bob and Lee were as marginal in importance as he wants us to believe in the press and so forth...

It gets to a point where you just have to make it your own listening experience and tune out the uglier sides of the music business. We as fans know what the Bob/Lee/Ozzy/Randy band did, the chemistry that makes 'Blizzard' and 'Diary' as timeless as they are and always will be.

Special Thanks also to The Flying Dutchman, Kindest Moderator, for providing us all with scores of Blizzard Of Ozz/Diary Of A Madman tour bootlegs. THANKS X A ZILLION .

Indeed. Been on a Stadhalle, West Germany 11/18/81 kick as well as 2/9/82 Kalmazoo, MI, with some 10/22/80 Chelmsford for best measure.

As a lifelong fan (almost thirty years) of the first two Ozzy albums, THANKS AGAIN for such a great selection and quality of bootlegs. I've been listening to these shows and listening again.. The Stadhalle gig as vibe is great! Ozzy in an opening slot for Saxon! The vibe of the show is great. Thanks again for everything, everybody. Have a great one. Cheers. Tim G.

[Paul Wolfe]

Ozzy doesn't act like Bob was marginally important. In his book he speaks highly of Bob, except for the point where Bob and Lee wanted more money... Ozzy says the re-masters were Sharon's idea to end the lawsuit. He says he wouldn't have done it.

As much speculation as is on here, no one will ever know the truth, maybe Randy, Bob and Lee were hired as session guys (who knew if Ozzy could sell records after Sabbath)? We'll never know, we can only speculate.

[AndrewT1976]

Bob deserves MORE money than Ozzy.

Like I've said a million times, Ozzy was a used up dish rag after Sabbath. He was like a bad case of herpes that no record label wanted to touch.

If Ozzy had continued with the "hack" band he was working with in the U.K. his career would have been flushed down the toilet, and the album would have landed in the cut-out bin within the first few months.

Ozzy would be known as "the former singer of Black Sabbath."

[shred1]

Quote: But seriously, I just like giving Rudy and Tommy a tough time cause they replaced two guys that were really good. But yeah, both Rudy and Tommy can definitely play, and they were cool on stage. Not MY preference, but heck, it worked for Ozzy...

There, its been clarified. What you are saying is an opinion, based on personal preference. And yes, it worked for Ozzy.
Maybe next time he hires a drummer, he will run it by you first.

We are talking stuff that happened 30 years ago folks... I don't even listen to those two albums anymore. Frankly tired of them. Brilliant or not. And no, I would not be too interested in Bob releasing tapes of the development of those albums. Its the same freakin' songs. How many versions of Flyin' High do we need? Chatter? Who cares.

The mishandling of Rhoads legacy has actually become more interesting than the music at this point, in my opinion. What a train wreck. He has become a 'cult of personality'.

Tommy and Rudy got on with their careers after Ozzy. Bob and Lee have spent the last 30 years bitching about a deal they made with the devil(!)

Google a modern photo of Lee... yikes.

[AndrewT1976]

Google a modern photo of any of those guys, and it's "yikes."

I think Tommy Iommi is the only guy who's held up over time. He still looks cool as f*ck.

[shred1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89uhiYMSVU

This is fairly modern....

[electricmombie]

I read Ozzy's book, too. True, initially he does speak well of Bob in that they got along in the beginning..

It's a different ballgame when you are writing songs with and recording with a guy who is a solo artist, or, is now known as a solo artist. How much money do people like that deserve? Probably a substantial amount: songwriting and performance royalties. Indeed: who TF knows what actually went down with all of them? I sometimes wonder if Randy got Rudy in there because he needed a friend around who knew him before he joined the band. Who knows?

Well, at any rate, at least the original albums are back out there. The remasters sound awesome, particularly 'Diary'. Ozzy's vocal level used to very mildly clip on the original '81 master (as well as the '95 remaster). Now? Everything sounds terrific, vocal levels and all.

Been having a genuine blast enjoying all of the bootlegs.. It's wild to see how much darker and thicker Randy's guitar tone became from around February '82 on. I love 1/15 Minneapolis, 1/22 Milwaukee (for the show's vibe over sound quality), 1/24 Rosemont Horizon, Chicago and 2/9 Kalmazoo, MI.. Also, great mentions to 6/27/81 El Paso and 8/7/81 Providence, Ri, the FULL 7/28/81 Montreal radio broadcast and those fascinating early shows like Glasgow 9/12/80, 9/23/80 Manchester and 10/22/80 Chelmsford.

Again, Thanks for having these shows available to us all, Flying Dutchman. I've been soaking so many gigs up since I was able to come across your links almost two weeks ago. Great website and great vibe in here, too. Thanks for that. Take care everyone. Peace. TG

[electricmombie]

Thanks Trigger.



Peace.
TG

[AndrewT1976]

I agree that Tommy can play. I just don't dig his style of playing. The obvious "over use" of cymbals is highly apparent on the After Hours performances. Every other second it's "whoosh...whooosh...whooshhh." So annoying. Did Lee play that way?? No. Lee was an actual "groove" drummer. Something Tommy lacks (in my opinion).

I guess coming from a band background myself, I always felt like no matter what member of a band we were replacing, the vibe just seemed worse than before.

There is nothing that can take away the magic that happens when 4 dudes get in a room and create an album from top to bottom.

With Rudy and Tommy involved in ZERO writing for BOO and DOAMM, I am left only to think of them as "performers." Big deal.

I enjoy the ART in music. Rudy and Tommy lack any ART related to BOO and DOAMM becaus they never recorded those albums. Bob and Lee DID.

I'll even go so far as to say that I really think BOO is a way better album than DOAMM. I think DOAMM has some "lacking" tunes whereas BOO is a masterpiece from head to toe.

Lastly - I'll always support Bob and Lee in their "complaining" about the Osbournes. The Osbournes ripped them off. Plain and simple. If it was YOU in their shoes, you'd be persistent in getting your $$$ too!

Sharon and Ozzy are awful people. They've screwed so many people over the years it's a wonder they are still alive.

They basically lied over and over again to musicians to get them to contribute to the albums, and then they didn'f follow through on their promises. They are liars. They are unethical business people. Even the way they promoted this new box set was unethical. "We have...footage that will leave you with you jaw dropped and give you goosebumps and chills." Yeah right. I saw the footage once (on line) and you know what, I never watched it twice. That tells you how much I "dig" it. Did I buy the box set?? No. Even if I HAD purchased it, I wouldn't have watched the live performances more than once, so that's my two cents...

Bob and Lee are to be respected in this situation. Ozzy and Sharon are to be reprimanded.