The Divid

[billeci]

of course those who paid for the box are gona rave about it, THEY PAID FOR IT

[Shockwave]

I dont think they have anything else, otherwise they would not have released the palladium footage that is all chopped up...

[Silver Rhoads]

Silver Rhoads: I agree. There are tons of people making money off Randys name

WHO???

the deluxe and legacy CD's sold around 6000 copies in the first week...the boxset would have been in the hundreds of copies not thousands, not big numbers....so who are all these people making money off randy's name??? JACKSON (well fender)??GIBSON?? who else?? Rudy?? Bob when his book is released??.....please enlighten me

Sorry, I'd rather not name anyone or call anyone out. It will just cause more conflicts. If anyone's been a fan for a while, I'm sure they could see what's for sale and figure it out. It's really not the issue here really. It's about what people think of the box set.

I do agree with many points here. Everyone here has a good head on their shoulders. Of course things could have been better. I won't argue that. I would have loved to have seen a video tour of Ridgefarm too. Many people aren't able to travel there to see it. The doc could have been more in depth. I think it does look like it was put together hastily. It sucks that many people were left out. We certainly weren't expecting that. We thought after the Dakota film ended up with problems, why would this one not be sufficent? I would rather spend my time talking about what I do like, rather then what I don't. Again, the people that are really disappointed should email Sony directly. There's no better way to get that information ... it can't hurt.

[axeman_12656]

Sharon offered to buy them outright from Bob for next to nothing, but like anyone with common sense, Bob said no. And I don't blame him.

Those are Bobs words. You don't know what she offered him. Something tells me Bob is holding this stuff hostage. There has to be a middle ground.

[Bongo Christ]

Couldn't agree more axe, only Bob knows how much he was offered. Anyone who claims otherwise is doing so to suit their anti Osbourne agenda. I could just as easily claim that Bob is as obsessed with making money from Randy's legacy as anyone.

As for the box, £120 including shipping and taxes was an absolute bargain, I adore everything about it. I do agree though that the documentary could have been so much more, although even after numerous views, the ending still brings a tear to my eye.

[rokket]

It doesn't really matter what Sharon offered Bob for the tapes, who in their right mind would sell, and sign over ownership and royalty rights..!! Could Bob trust Sharon to do the right thing with those tapes? Or would she just edit them to suit the "Ozzy, Randy wrote everything" scenario.....Fact is, even if Sharon offered a million dollars, is that going to be a figure close to what the Osbournes would earn from a box set of unheard/unreleased tapes.....it's hours worth of material remember. As for Bob trying to make money from the Randy Rhoads legacy.......he's slow off the mark then.....it's taken him decades to get around to releasing anything to do with Randy, and the book isn't even out yet. The book, by the way, isn't just about Randy Rhoads, it's also about Rainbow, Uriah Heep, Gary Moore, and a host of other subjects. Bob would take whatever the offer was from Sharon if he just wanted to make a quick buck. On the other hand, what exactly is the selling point of the box set, the albums....again....no.... poster and cross....not really.....oh yeah the unseen Randy footage, live cd with Randy and to a certain extent, the book. Seems to me like if you take the Randy Rhoads aspect from the box set, who exactly would REALLY want it...???

[Remedylane]

It doesn't really matter what Sharon offered Bob for the tapes, who in their right mind would sell, and sign over ownership and royalty rights..!! Could Bob trust Sharon to do the right thing with those tapes? Or would she just edit them to suit the "Ozzy, Randy wrote everything" scenario.....Fact is, even if Sharon offered a million dollars, is that going to be a figure close to what the Osbournes would earn from a box set of unheard/unreleased tapes.....it's hours worth of material remember. As for Bob trying to make money from the Randy Rhoads legacy.......he's slow off the mark then.....it's taken him decades to get around to releasing anything to do with Randy, and the book isn't even out yet. The book, by the way, isn't just about Randy Rhoads, it's also about Rainbow, Uriah Heep, Gary Moore, and a host of other subjects. Bob would take whatever the offer was from Sharon if he just wanted to make a quick buck. On the other hand, what exactly is the selling point of the box set, the albums....again....no.... poster and cross....not really.....oh yeah the unseen Randy footage, live cd with Randy and to a certain extent, the book. Seems to me like if you take the Randy Rhoads aspect from the box set, who exactly would REALLY want it...???

So why did Bob ever even bring up the "grail tapes"? Clearly its to make a buck. If it wasn't about the money he would just "leak" them onto the internet. Im not saying that Bob could or should trust Sharon to do the right things with the tapes, but you don't kid yourself. Its about the money for him or else we would have already heard them. And you are right, the Randy aspect of the boxset is a huge selling point for it. As ive said, it was just a way to hold Randy fans hostage for 150 bucks. And mark my words, that DVD will come out as a stand alone. It will be 20-25 bucks. And even if you took out the Randy aspect, people would still want it. Its Ozzy. He has MILLIONS and MILLIONS of fans all over the world. Even more than Randy.. But without the Randy aspect, and the footage that the pumped up, they couldn't have charged the ridiculous price tag that they put on it. Sure, they threw a book and a cheap cross in, but at the end of the day its overpriced IMO.

Matt

[rokket]

The reason he'd mentioned "the grail" was because he thought they would make a great inclusion to the box set, being the 30th anniversary of those albums, as well as the fact they he played on them as well as writing most of the lyrics to the songs and working out the music with Randy and the rest of the band. And of course he wants to be paid, it's partly his work, his playing and the tapes are his. Why just leak them onto the net?......why do bands release anything in the first place....to get paid. It would have been amazing to hear how those classic songs were worked on, hearing them evolve etc. He wanted to release them himself, but Sharon won't allow it, the Osbourne camp has to sign off on Ozzy's performance on the tapes before they can be released, and they won't. They simply want to own them outright and keep every dollar they make for themselves, almost as if they have a god given right to anything to do with Randy. I think the idea of "the Osbournes can do no wrong", was clearly blown out the window when they released Blizzard and Diary minus Bob and Lee's original parts. That was nothing short of childish.

[Silver Rhoads]

All GREAT POINTS from everyone! However, Sharon will always be adamant. You can't change a person that has their mind made up that much.

If I were Bob, I would have to acquiesce somewhat. I would ask myself, "Do I want to be paid at least a million dollars, even if Sharon makes more or do I let it sit in my home and not make any money on it at all?" If you can't slay the dragon, why not get a little bit rather than nothing? Hello, I'll take a million over nothing. I'm not saying this to disrespect making money off of Randy. I'm talking about what Bob has graciously offered the fans to enjoy. No one will enjoy it in a house collecting dust. If it finally does get released, hopefully it's very soon and not later because the die hard Randy fans are getting on in years. The younger fans might not appreciate or cherish it as much.

[stealaway]

I feel very blessed, that we got all this footage! I get so inspired each and every time I see or hear Randy Rhoads playing guitar! And that´s what counts to me mostly, great music that i can enjoy!!!

[Whipper]

Funny how something you'd think would bring Randy fans together, actually ended up dividing them! Count me in as one who totally enjoyed it and felt it was was worth it. And I can assure you it's not because "I paid for it"! That makes absolutely no sense. If anything, I'd be bitching all the more than the people who didn't buy it if I didn't think it was worth it.

[rokket]

Funny how something you'd think would bring Randy fans together, actually ended up dividing them! Count me in as one who totally enjoyed it and felt it was was worth it. And I can assure you it's not because "I paid for it"! That makes absolutely no sense. If anything, I'd be bitching all the more than the people who didn't buy it if I didn't think it was worth it.

I don't think the issue's regarding Bob and Lee divide Randy Rhoads fans, the issue certainly can divide Ozzy fans though. A lot of people to this day call Blizzard and Diary, Ozzy and Randy's greatest works, but in reality it would seem they are Randy and Bobs greatest work for the most part, with Ozzy offering melody ideas and a line of lyrics here and there. Without those songs that Randy and Bob, for the most part, created, would Ozzy's career gone anywhere??? After all, at that point in time Ozzy was a mental train wreck. I think Ozzy knew who put him back on the map, otherwise, why have him back to write Bark At The Moon, Ultimate Sin, No Rest For The Wicked and No More Tears............it speaks for it's self.

[Bluesquad2001]

I'm new here.....but I just got my box set, and it is beautiful! The cross is just fantastic! Although it needs to be polished to a mirror like finish..no problem I did just that. And as for the book, I've never seen any of those photos with Randy other than 1 out of the whole book. It is fantastic.

[stealaway]

I put a thin jewel-chain on the cross...but then I put it back to boxset... Can´t wear it, not just yet!!!

[Rhoads-Fan]

I'm a motherf^¢king hardcore Randy Rhoads fan! I'm damn glad I bought the box set. Not even an option not to buy it. The biggest deal was that those albums are now restored with Bob/Lee intact and beautifully remastered (not destroyed like a lot of today's squashed mastering). A great new live CD along with this great (but not perfect) new footage, and a cool picture book too.

This is probably the last big product to celebrate my favorite guitarist (unless / until the Dakota doc comes out). I'm damn glad this box set was released. I gave $haron my money. $he can go get another facelift for all I care. $he gave us back those two albums in their original form, that's what really matters most IMNSHO.

People on the internet have the luxury of picking everything apart to pieces. Frankly, it gets old on these forums. Don't like it, don't buy it. Go watch it on Youtube for free (with all of the other freeloaders in the world).

Me, I get to cherish my box set with the rest of my RR memorabilia. There won't be too more times that RR is in this big of a spotlight again.

Amen....amen. I love the book and of course anything Randy. It wasn't an option for me. Had to have it