Do you think more Randy Rhoads footage exists?

[AceVader]

And the newly released trailer confirms my long-held belief that more '82 footage existed than we knew about! There's probably quite a bit more, I never bought into the myth of nothing existing. I think there's probably a significant amount of late '81- '82 footage out there.

I want to see it all!!

[hansolo]

No, there is no more Randy Rhoads footage other than what is commercially available. Why is this thread still going?

[The Flying Dutchman]

No, there is no more Randy Rhoads footage other than what is commercially available. Why is this thread still going?

[Paul Wolfe]

I think the question is, "Will we ever see all the footage available?" Once this DVD is released, it'll be interesting to see if it's clips or full on concert footage.

[distortionplus]

I don't know if this has ever been brought up, but the Rhoads family should know about footage I would think. I know if I was in their situation I would want copies for personal reasons. A son/brother tragically killed like he was you would want whatever was available to remember and honor him.

[johnorlitta]

I would think that if the Rhoads family did know of any footage that is out there, they may or may not be able to say so, depending on who the owner of the footage is.

[Paul Wolfe]

No offense, but why would anyone "not be allowed" to say they know of film of a guitar player?

If Randy's family has or has seen film of Randy, they probably don't say anything because they don't want to. Randy's family has not been known to go out looking for venues to talk about him (in my view), they happily discuss him when asked, but they don't often go seeking attention for him.

[johnorlitta]

They should have the freedom to do as they please, I was just thinking that maybe there is footage owned by someone that would rather not have it released or known about, and had asked the Rhoads family not to say anything about it.

[Geo Sav]

It was said their wasn't any thing before this boxset and guess what look what they accidentally. Found. When Tribute was released ozzy said that's it there is nothing else. Bull.

[TheMrAxeman]

It was said their wasn't any thing before this boxset and guess what look what they accidentally. Found. When Tribute was released ozzy said that's it there is nothing else. Bull.

after all these years they obtain two concerts conveniently right before the 30th anniversary?
i bet they've had at least one of them for a long time
i mean how do they do it?! We do way more searching than them!!!

[Geo Sav]

I'm totally with you on this. I hope we are are right about this even though we might never see it.

[Phineas J]

My guess is the stuff we are seeing is probably the video uncovered by Margolis and his team while making the doc. Ozzy just got it from them and is putting it out.

Where is the supposed footage that Wareagle was talking about from that guy in NY? Wasnt that supposed to have been pro shot? And didnt the guy say he had been in talks with the Osbournes about it? Too much to remember I guess...

[houselabdj]

You know .... I'm gonna graduate from an audio engineering school & I took a class on copyright laws , liscencing , etc. & it depends how the contract stated ownership . Look @ how much footage of Jimi hendrix was out there that got tied up in courts . It's all in the contracts Randy signed , Sure someone may own the PHYSICAL footage , but nonetheless the owners/ songwriters ( Ozzys or Delores' camp )/ may opt to pay / buy the rights for footage acquired . IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FINE PRINT WHICH CAN GET STICKY .

[blues_n_cues]

and now there's a bill in the senate which may make imbedding youtube vids into forums etc a felony.....
copyright ownership is a muddy pond that gets mixed every year....

[austin]

June 1, 2011


Osbournes keep rewriting history, says original bassist
Daisley reveals he has stacks of unheard Randy Rhoads material, but won’t let Ozzy and Sharon cheat him over it


http://rocknewsdesk.com/world-news/osbo ... -bob/2020/

Original Ozzy Osbourne bassist Bob Daisley has a hoard of unheard recordings featuring tragic guitarist Randy Rhoads – but he refuses to allow the Osbournes to badger him into a cut-price deal for releasing them.

Daisley accuses the celebrity couple of “rewriting history” and cites the example of his own removal from re-releases of the first two Ozzy solo albums. Manager Sharon Osbourne had his parts and those of drummer Lee Kerslake replaced with new recordings when Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman were republished in 2002.

The bassist tells BraveWords: “When Sharon and Ozzy tell the story, they both try to rewrite history. It’s inaccurate and it’s not how it happened.

“To start, Ozzy said Sharon used to come to the pub with us when we were doing the first record. But she wasn’t even there – it’s a long way to come from LA, as that’s where she was living. She had nothing to do with the first record; Ozzy was still married to Thelma at the time, and she used to come to the pub.”

But Daisley says fans will have to wait to hear the whole story: “Lee and I were not consulted – you’re not going to get us in it as the Osbournes are involved.

“There were four people in that band and it was the chemistry of those four people that made it what it was.

“Ozzy’s career would have been washed up because he’d lost a lot of credibility for being unreliable with Black Sabbath. Randy couldn’t get arrested in America with his band at the time. Lee couldn’t get his band off the ground and I was worried my career was over. So the four of us came together and helped each other.

“All this crap about Randy Rhoads single-handedly saving Ozzy’s career – he didn’t. All due respect and credit to Randy, who was nothing short of amazing, but it took four people to make those albums. A band recorded those albums and that band was called the Blizzard of Ozz.”

Rhoads died in a plane crash on tour with the band in 1982, and Daisley says he has rehearsal and performance tapes from the time the band were together which fans would love to hear.

He believes the 30th anniversary of the albums would have been a perfect time to make them public. But he couldn’t reach a deal with the Osbournes – although the original Daisley and Kerslake tracks were returned for the anniversary releases.

“I have Ozzy singing and Randy playing,” the bassist explains. “The quality is not bad, but not studio quality. But it’s a legal issue with somebody’s performance – you have to get them to sign off.

“All Sharon wanted to do was to buy everything for a measly sum then release it. I said, ‘No way, this stuff’s gold. Do it my way, meaning I get a royalty this time.’ I should have always got a royalty.

“They would’t do it. So I said, ‘I’m not handing it over to you to make a fortune.’ The main reason was they could have edited it and taken us out again – go about rewriting history again.

“Fans would love this stuff – it’s too bad. But they want you to believe Ozzy and Randy did everything.”

Former Black Sabbath singer Osbourne has insisted he had no knowledge of the 2002 re-releases without the original rhythm section tracks, saying his wife had done it without consulting him and he wouldn’t have allowed it if he’d known.