Which performances are on the Live CD?

[dannyahansen]

(this makes me think about what Dave T. said..... the show I suspect: May 22nd 1981 - Checkerdome, St. Louis, MO assuming Dave T. didn't talk crap]

My only issue with this is how Randy played some of the songs and the fills he use. Crazy Train and Steal Away the Night are the 2 best examples of a show that are played like they were from end of July through August. The earlier shows of Crazy Train have Randy's cool signature lick that he stopped playing in July/August. Also Randy played a lot of 8th notes in Crazy train at the beginning of the 81' tour (Except for After hours, but even then Randy plays his signature lick 2 times in that one). And some were in July started playing more 16th notes. That to me, is the dead give away, it also sounds a lot like Montreal and that was the end of July. There are other tell tell sighs in Crazy Train. I suggest all compare the Rhode Island boot to this new show. There is a lot that is similar in the format of the 2 shows as far as this song is concerned.

Now, at the 3:13 mark on Steal Away the Night, Randy plays a cool lick that I have only heard on the Rhode Island boot. And that was, I believe August 7th. '81. Also, according to a few at TK, in Rudy's book he mentions something about a recording of the Indianapolis Indiana and that Sharon had scheduled a recording for that day. That show was sometime in August of '81 and that fits the feel and format of this show. Good times.

[zennman]

Is anyone able to contact Kevin Churko? He's the one that mixed and worked on the live CD. Maybe he was asked not to say anything. I don't understand why everything has to be a secret.

http://twitter.com/#!/kevinchurko
http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Ch ... 0517844197

[Silver Rhoads]

Well, I asked him on twitter, but I doubt he'll answer. He's a busy guy. Someone might get hold of him at some point. I had no idea he was involved with the Scream album too.

Here's his site and blog:

http://kevinchurko.com/

[whoopiecat]

Has anyone else noticed during Believer, Ozzy sings the line "speculation of the wise" not once, not twice, but in all three verses?
Aside from that, his voice does sound great.

~T.

[AndrewT1976]

That Kevin Churko guy (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) really said some "obvious" things during the documentary. His comments were what an average Joe off of the street would say about ANY recording he'd never heard before in his life. (cue the violins and orchestra and vocal arrangements) "That's great." Yeah, we know. Give us some insight from a Producer's perspective. He had a couple of other comments that made me roll my eyes too. Like I said, probably a nice guy and a solid Producer, but really...

[xk319]

Yeah, working at that level, he's outstanding as a producer (in the grand scheme of producers around the world), but he just might not be great in front of a camera. Those guys are basically never in that position.

[No1UNo]

Has anyone else noticed during Believer, Ozzy sings the line "speculation of the wise" not once, not twice, but in all three verses?
Aside from that, his voice does sound great.

~T.

Makes me wonder actually how much they messed with Ozzy's vocals (besides some EQ & FX) if they were flying sampled phrases in via Pro Tools. Funny how he just couldn't get "Believer" and "Over the Mountain" right most of the time.

[Mozart82]

I just picked up the Diary Legacy at fye and I think the spot light solo is from 1980. The tone is different from the rest of the cd but definately a cool solo. It's great to have a clear recording of those neat arpeggiated fragments he did in 80 a lot. The first time I heard those parts is when I got a bootleg in the 80's of one of the Quiet Riot Reunion shows at the starwood.

[jimiforrest]

Can't remember which Sabbath tune off the top of my head...but when Ozz is whipping up the crowd does he say "let's do it again for London?" Noticed it today...but not listening to it at the moment.

[Silver Rhoads]

That Kevin Churko guy (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) really said some "obvious" things during the documentary. His comments were what an average Joe off of the street would say about ANY recording he'd never heard before in his life. (cue the violins and orchestra and vocal arrangements) "That's great." Yeah, we know. Give us some insight from a Producer's perspective. He had a couple of other comments that made me roll my eyes too. Like I said, probably a nice guy and a solid Producer, but really...

Could be possible that he couldn't say whatever he wanted. Maybe it was a bit more controled, for lack of a better word. It looks to me like he's just trying to be cool and affable with Ozzy. He does talk about how bad he wanted to hear the end of Tonight. That was interesting to hear and seemed much shorter than we were led to believe, unless it was cut.

[slobberface]

The outro for Tonight seemed like it was cut short on the doc, it sounded like the track they were listening to would abruptly just cut into different parts of the solo, some parts from what we already have and then some I haven't heard...Atleast what they showed on VH1 classic, I know with some documentaries they show on there they shorten parts and take out certain songs and stuff... I haven't seen the DVD yet so the entire solo could be on there, but you could tell with what they showed on VH1 that is was chopped...Has anyone seen the doc on VH1 and seen it on DVD and can clear this up?

[xk319]

Can't remember which Sabbath tune off the top of my head...but when Ozz is whipping up the crowd does he say "let's do it again for London?" Noticed it today...but not listening to it at the moment.

He says one more time for luck.

[AceVader]

The more I listen, the more I'm convinced. The Spotlight Solo is not from the same gig as Suicide Solution. Different tone. And a very brief break in the noise. The crowd noise level changes very abruptly, goes way down, the solo starts in with a very different tone. Someone said it sort of morphs, but what I think is going on is they used the beginning of SS from one gig, then punched in the solo and last bit of Suicide Solution from another gig. Listen to the transition from the song to the beginning of the solo very, very carefully and tell me if I'm crazy.

[roballyn]

i believe the spotlight solo is compiled from several different sources. correct me if i'm wrong, but i've never heard any of Randy's solos roll through so quick. And the staccato piece(@ 6m10s), i think was lifted from a Quiet Riot recording. Almost identical to the one on the Randy Rhoads Years cd. Once again, someone clear me up, but i don't recall hearing him play that particular part on any Ozzy-era spotlight solo recordings. Someone mentioned Southampton, but i've never heard the whole show, and the EP doesn't have the spotlight solo on it.

[Solos]

I just downloaded this show along with the Diary Remaster from Amazon. Smoking playing by Randy for sure! It shows the thing that I love most about his playing... he just goes for it. So much feeling and attitude but such a high level technique. There's some clams in there, but it is such a great performace! (though I think they took tunes from multiple shows). I think it is sped up just a tad though... I haven't sat down with the guitar, but it does sound a bit sharp, especially I Don't Know. The drums do sound suspiciously lively and in your face, but I do believe it is Aldridge on there. If it isn't, whoever played on it did a hell of a job capturing Tommy's feel, signature drums fills, and drum tone. Tommy sounds like Tommy. I have to laugh though how the trust in the Osbournes is so bad that you can't help but look for inconsistencies in the recording to see if it was doctored or parts were redone. I'm pretty sure it is a legit group of performances from that era, so my hat is off to the producers for the high quality of the audio.

As for the arpeggio bits in the Spotlight Solo, I swear I listened to a show labled as New York 1981 (second Palladium show?) that had that in it.

**EDIT** Yep, 6 minute mark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-F0Chnme4g

Anyway, Randy was so great. Listening to this stuff today really put a smile on my face. Like they said in the doc, Randy loved playing the guitar, and you can really hear it in his performance. The show (or shows) that they used must have been from nights where he loved his tone because he's really going for it. The Osbournes disgust me because they just can't bring themselves to accurately tell the story of their time with Randy (or let the others involved do it for them), but props for putting out this live disk. Much better than Tribute IMO.