Do you think more Randy Rhoads footage exists?

[dmnjr]

Who wants to make a little wager that those brothers that have the silent Diary footage let some out now that the dream we've all waited for in regards to being a Randy fan is about to come to fruition?

[Maria]

shortly before he decided to leave QR & the RnR lifestyle behind, he and Randy had an actual physical fistfight, where Randy wound up brekaing his thumbnail off on Kelly's forehead, (both had allegdly having a thumbnail-growing contest). Kelly had kept said thumnail ever since.

Thanks whoopiecat, now I remember the story. However, you say it was BEFORE Randy became world famous with Ozzy band. So there were almost NO reason for Kelly to think that anything related to Randy may be important. The only reason may be the said nail-growing contest, but it looks like a rather weak reason to keep a broken nail for years.

If this is pro-shot, or semi-pro and you have hoarded this for an eventual payday, then I'm thankful for allowing this to surface, but at the same time, I tell you to fuck yourself, as you hung profit on the memory and legecy of a dead man, and ultimately, hurt his loved ones by depriving them of a rare memory of Randy, because you were afraid of prosecution or holding out for the highest bidder.

Sorry, this is not my point of view.
Every record company 'hoards' materials of dead musicians and makes compilations, box sets, bonus tracks etc. - just to MAKE MONEY on the memory and legacy of the dead. Elvis is dead, but his new stuff appears. Who gets the money? Well, if we think that selling anything related to the dead men is wrong, we must abolish copyright prescribing us fans to pay for any records of the long gone persons, because we certainly know that no Elvis or Jimi will get our money, but they will go right to the pockets of whoever else we probably even don't know - to a man or company holding the 'copyright' these days.

To wait for a right moment to release the stuff is normal business, isn't it? When R'n'B or grunge is high it is certainly not the time to sell Ozzy Osbourne. I guess Sharon thought that way waiting for the best moment to release the footage we all here are waiting for. Well, business exists for profit, not for the high ideals of making fans happy. Right or wrong, it works that way.

And as to 'persecution' - is it a crime to film a rock band and keep the tape without letting the whole world know about it?

[whoopiecat]

Sorry Maria, I should have been more clear, as I was referring to bootleggers. Those who filmed without the artists knowledge, or those within circles who sell and collect these films and hoard them away from the artists and public in general.
If artists choose not to release what is in their vaults for whatever reason, then that is their call and their business.
I was a couple of beers deep last night when I posted, sorry for the confusion.

[Maria]

Sorry Maria, I should have been more clear, as I was referring to bootleggers. Those who filmed without the artists knowledge, or those within circles who sell and collect these films and hoard them away from the artists and public in general.
If artists choose not to release what is in their vaults for whatever reason, then that is their call and their business.
I was a couple of beers deep last night when I posted, sorry for the confusion.

Nevermind, I've got the idea
However, I don't think its so criminal to film something for posterity - probably for your own use initially, but then decide to give it up or sell it to other people. Any record filmed by someone is his own, and however we may dislike it, he can do anything to it: give it up free, sell or hoard. I suspect that 'artists knowledge' could have deprive us of many bootlegs we now listen and enjoy. Some artists (I don't mean Randy of course) sound absolutely crappy live so they'd not be happy to give their permission to release such stuff whichever valuable it may be to fans

[johnorlitta]

i think it may have been ozzy saying randy was getting into bouncing chords of his echo unit maybe?

Yeah, I believe it was Ozzy that had mentioned it. I just can't imagine what more Randy would have done if he was still with us, maybe play in/conduct a metal orchestra of his own, similar to Manheim Steamroller?

[Tito]

i bet your right jo!!!

[The Flying Dutchman]

For those who wonder why it did take so long, here is a clue:
Rhoads, Garni Interview (Part2) (at 3:20)

I'm glad they finally made the right decision!

[GUITARIDOL5682]

One of the main reasons why i think people hold onto rare footage, live tapes etc, has alot to do with money. When it becomes available through the internet etc. It loses it's value and the rare item becomes mass produced by the bootleggers. I'm amazed at how much these Japanese CD Ozzy / Randy gigs are selling for. These are not official but someone is making them and they are freely available to download. They put some artwork together with a printed disc and these are selling for £55.00+. I could understand if these shows were flawless soundboard quality. But they are no better then what is already available. I swapped a rare bootleg a few years ago and i trusted the guy to keep it to himself. But i can guarantee his friends will have copies and before long someone will leak it out and it'll end up on ebay. Don't worry Ian it wasn't a Randy or Ozzy show.

[Trigger]

Don't worry Ian it wasn't a Randy or Ozzy show.

Thank god for that! although I am keen on all pre-86 showqs because after that they lose much of their charm.

[chief]

I hope someone who has film they're hoarding (for lack of a better term), has been smart enough to care for it. Any film of Randy, circa his career with Ozzy, has reached three decades of age.
Point being that bad things happen to good film that is not cared for/ stored properly. Film cans left in a basement or attic after all these years would be pretty much junk.
I am sure anyone who has existing footage of the Blizzard and Diary tours knows exactly what they have, and any of this footage would be handled with kid gloves, as well as transferred to digital by now.

Hi all...been lurking here for years and felt compelled to step into the ring for once. One reason I have hope for more Randy video is something that happened a few years back. In the summer of '06 a video of Kiss at the Cobo Hall in 1977 surfaced on Ebay. As someone pointed out in an earlier post,as to when these things seem to surface, it was 29 years after it had been filmed. I managed to snag a DVD, and it was without a doubt of the highest quality of vintage Kiss shows. Certainly as good or better than anything on the Kissology DVD's. And I've heard from collectors over the years that this stuff is out there, but much of it is kept from the public.

That is why I've always held out hope that somewhere there was a show filmed. I know here in Portland, Ore. one of the local clubs video'd and made board recordings of everyone who rolled through there in the 90's. If you knew the right people you could score a recording, but they were never made available to the public, because they didn't want to lose their jobs. And if some venue years ago was recording every show that rolled through, the odds that there's lost footage is probably pretty good. However, it could be in the hands of someone who doesn't know who Ozzy is, let alone Randy.

I will agree with Whoopie though, as time goes on, the medium degrades. Although, I did find some old band demos on cassette that spent numerous summers in a non climate controlled storage facility, that upon listen sounded like yesterday. And that's going through temps ranging from 20F-105F. So anything is possible...

Take care all...love this site and all of you. God bless Randy Rhoads!

[DMRX]

Yeah,Ive had a strong belief that some Pro-Shot Footage HAD to exsist.Like w/the Kiss stuff,I have been a Randy fan for more than half of my life & I was Just Absoulutly (and frankly still am) BLOWN AWAY!! By the surfacing of that Soundcheck footage some Twenty-Odd Years after his death & TThe Quality is just Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So by what Kelle & Kelly are saying,They have No idea the status of the Documentary,which leads me to believe that the Osbournes ,indeed did take over the Film (Either for Money,or perhaps Mrs.Rhoads request) It is strange how the days of Peter posting his pic w/Ozzy & Ozzys Twitter about the Footage were within days of eachother.

So Mabey Peter came across/aquired some footage & wasnt able to release/use it w/o the Osbournes permission ,& sold it to them.
Then again there Had to be Some of this footage in the Osbournes Archive,but I have a feeling that it is in fact Both sources of the Video & I hope theese Rumors are Fact & there will be a Concert/video for Each Album/Tour.

Bottom Line --Over all theese years & years,There are Litterally 1000s upon 1000s of Professional & Amateur Photographs of Randy in the Ozzy years (they played Some 200 Gigs)
And after all theese years All the Video that has surfaced were just those 2 "Segments" of shows (NY & Chicago) & Ozzy was already (Pre-Determined) Voted Hit Paraders Number 1 Touring Act in America for 1982 before Randys death.There Had to be Some Things Taped for Prosperity w/a Tour of that size w/the Huge Castle....Youd think they had to film Opening night or Pre production rehearsals.NY Sounds Vey likely as it was a Double Set Sold Out Months in advance as OZZYS US Debut,they would HAVE to tape that ,right????Even his 1st Gig in Glascow that was SOLD OUT?? I cant wait to see whats in store,& I am Gad to know that IT HAD TO EXSIST!!

[hansolo]

I totally agree there must be footage out there...

[hansolo]

Even his 1st Gig in Glascow that was SOLD OUT??

I believe Sharon said that at Glasgow, the 1st gig, they did the show for free due to poor ticket sales (Ozzy first solo not Sabbath, poor people in Scotland '80) so it couldn't have been sold out. And I'll ask again, WHAT SILENT DIARY FOOTAGE?

[DMRX]

I believe Sharon said that at Glasgow, the 1st gig, they did the show for free due to poor ticket sales (Ozzy first solo not Sabbath, poor people in Scotland '80) so it couldn't have been sold out. And I'll ask again, WHAT SILENT DIARY FOOTAGE?

Even his 1st Gig in Glascow that was SOLD OUT??

I believe Sharon said that at Glasgow, the 1st gig, they did the show for free due to poor ticket sales (Ozzy first solo not Sabbath, poor people in Scotland '80) so it couldn't have been sold out. And I'll ask again, WHAT SILENT DIARY FOOTAGE?

Posted

Sharon says it here at about 4 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2bvOsS1 ... re=related

It was in fact SOLD-OUT & Don was their manager at the time,mabey he had it filmed since Ozzy was to be his new cash cow??

[hansolo]

I believe Sharon said that at Glasgow, the 1st gig, they did the show for free due to poor ticket sales (Ozzy first solo not Sabbath, poor people in Scotland '80) so it couldn't have been sold out. And I'll ask again, WHAT SILENT DIARY FOOTAGE?

Even his 1st Gig in Glascow that was SOLD OUT??

I believe Sharon said that at Glasgow, the 1st gig, they did the show for free due to poor ticket sales (Ozzy first solo not Sabbath, poor people in Scotland '80) so it couldn't have been sold out. And I'll ask again, WHAT SILENT DIARY FOOTAGE?

Posted

Sharon says it here at about 4 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2bvOsS1 ... re=related

It was in fact SOLD-OUT & Don was their manager at the time,mabey he had it filmed since Ozzy was to be his new cash cow??

My mistake. I did read there were early gigs they let people in for free (some old mag??) due to ticket sales (see above reasons) so, I must of confused it with Glasgow. You can see how easy it was to misinterpret what Sharon said...

At the risk of sounding redundant, any new Randy news? What is the silent or B&W Diary footage rumored? I just need a taste, man!