I understand there's free speech here and a laid back attitude, which is a good thing, but you have to admit there were folks here who were just flat out rude to the man. I'm not saying he's above any of it...but I certainly got the vibe Kelly wasn't welcome here.
Same goes for TK, though Kelly has been a member there since forever, when he had his falling out with the folks at Dakota, everyone there went pro-Peter and seemed to have forgotten all the time and memories Kelly shared with them.
That's why I said most and not all.
Weeks away....What Is Up????Anyone???Anyone??
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Hi Tom
I do understand what you are getting at, yes some people were rude to Kelly but part of the FOS thing is that members speak up for themselves and most peole get on OK with that.
The anti Kelly thing came from very few people and as far as I can remember came from only really one person who we removed because he though it was fine to talk about the nigger President!!! his kind of FOS isn't welcome anywhere and though he stired it for Kelly.
I don't think anybody is fooled by a whipped up frenzy of anti KG retoric including Kelly himself, that said I do understand how that did look and sypathise with anyone who perhaps wrongly believed we through FOS condoned such pathetic small minded loyalsit behavior, The fullness of time will proove what the truth behind the film really is and hindsight will leave none of us in any doubt about who is at fault.
I do understand what you are getting at, yes some people were rude to Kelly but part of the FOS thing is that members speak up for themselves and most peole get on OK with that.
The anti Kelly thing came from very few people and as far as I can remember came from only really one person who we removed because he though it was fine to talk about the nigger President!!! his kind of FOS isn't welcome anywhere and though he stired it for Kelly.
I don't think anybody is fooled by a whipped up frenzy of anti KG retoric including Kelly himself, that said I do understand how that did look and sypathise with anyone who perhaps wrongly believed we through FOS condoned such pathetic small minded loyalsit behavior, The fullness of time will proove what the truth behind the film really is and hindsight will leave none of us in any doubt about who is at fault.
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Understood, Sir. Again, I think the FOS thing present here is a good thing...it's just unfortunate some feel the need to test the limits and take things too far.
When I first heard of the film, I believed it to be something great, but over the past three years, it doesn't seem that anymore.
I was under the impression that the Rhoads family had done several background checks on Peter, there were all kinds of legal documents passed about and such. Anyone who listened to his interview on the American Made Guitars site would know what I'm referring to.
We were led to think the family had gotten the right man for the job, now it seems like the whole thing was one big fucking mistake.
A huge disappointment for all.
T.
When I first heard of the film, I believed it to be something great, but over the past three years, it doesn't seem that anymore.
I was under the impression that the Rhoads family had done several background checks on Peter, there were all kinds of legal documents passed about and such. Anyone who listened to his interview on the American Made Guitars site would know what I'm referring to.
We were led to think the family had gotten the right man for the job, now it seems like the whole thing was one big fucking mistake.
A huge disappointment for all.
T.
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KG,krgarni wrote:Good post Jimbo. I like a guy that tells it like it is. The director of the doc is in reality a crook. As it stands now, no Osbourns, so where's the story? The director will not even contact the family. Or maybe it's best said, he doesn't. You, the fans, have been patient, and enthisuastic from the start. And I appreciate that so much. But. I must say from my heart, that the wrong person was chosen for the job. Heard he was at NAMM, good thing we didn't run into each other. I'd still be in the Orange county jail. Please believe me when I tell you that I have some very cool things coming up to make it up to you fans who are so great. Remember That cool vid up a bit ago about a dude who had the ultimate Randy collection? I'm working with him now and Fender. Lot's of cool stuff coming up. Geeze? I haven't been attacked by Romeo and his new buddy PM? I must be doing something wrong. Maybe telling the truth here will get me in more trouble. Now you all know what I know regarding the film. I wish it could be more, I wish it could be more positive, but you'all got what I know. In the end, it's no reason to stop loving Randy, and I am so greatfull to all of you. That is, movie or not, the most important thing.
Thanks for yet another TRUE update! Does no Osbournes mean no Ozzy/Randy music in the film? If they cant use the Ozzy era music then that would suck royally.
Ultimately it does not matter who is right or wrong, who disagrees or agrees, with anything that is posted on these boards, as what will be. will be. My interest in all of this, was purely from the standpoint, of wanting Dee to see a film produced and released, befitting the dedication and love she has shown over these many years in keeping. and honoring Randy's life, and to his fans. As that is most likely not a probability in her lifetime 
, at this point, I have come to an understanding that, she has seen so much love over the years with the fans visits to Musonia, Randy's Memorial, the Tributes and Art which has been posted by thousands of fans, as well as the benefits held in his memory, that her life has been made that much fuller.
What does matter is that fans have the right to express their views, and thoughts about someone who has inspired, and enhanced their musical experience. On several occasions KG has had bumps along the road of life. You the fans of these boards have been there to lift him up, and show your love.
To honor, and commemorate someone's extraordinary talent, is admirable, if not commendable. In an organization dedicated to do just that, I questioned the charging of admission to such a web site. I also questioned the choices KG had made, with whom he had aligned himself. May not be any of my business, but if I am to pay for a site, it is my right to ask questions. This is all water under the bridge. Tom, I may come across as snarky, but have meant no disrespect at all. I say what I feel, and feel what I say. I do not feel the need to be diplomatic in these matters.
I do not include KG in this statement, but over the years, the Rhoads family have seen many benefit financially with the use of Randy's name and music. It did not go into the Rhoads' pockets, nor the UCLA fund. Call me crazy, but this has left me wary of how things are run, and for whose benefit.
If fans do not feel the need to ask these questions, then far be it for me to ask them.
You could say California is like a bowl of cereal as far as the Entertainment Industry and Law are concerned. It is filled with a lot of fruit, nuts, and a whole lot of flakes. It is also the land of legal loop holes. My wonder at this point and time, is who owns the rights to the footage shot for the documentary ? If PM does, will any of the people interviewed be willing to be interview again for a new start ? I really hope our legal system comes through for the Rhoads' in the end, and in an expedient manner.
KG is in a special position to show those who admire Randy's extraordinary talent, that the differences in opinion can be used as a positive tool, to bring about a creative and positive end goal for the new, and young musicians of the future. Those differences ultimately are all about the love. Cheers !
, at this point, I have come to an understanding that, she has seen so much love over the years with the fans visits to Musonia, Randy's Memorial, the Tributes and Art which has been posted by thousands of fans, as well as the benefits held in his memory, that her life has been made that much fuller.What does matter is that fans have the right to express their views, and thoughts about someone who has inspired, and enhanced their musical experience. On several occasions KG has had bumps along the road of life. You the fans of these boards have been there to lift him up, and show your love.
To honor, and commemorate someone's extraordinary talent, is admirable, if not commendable. In an organization dedicated to do just that, I questioned the charging of admission to such a web site. I also questioned the choices KG had made, with whom he had aligned himself. May not be any of my business, but if I am to pay for a site, it is my right to ask questions. This is all water under the bridge. Tom, I may come across as snarky, but have meant no disrespect at all. I say what I feel, and feel what I say. I do not feel the need to be diplomatic in these matters.
I do not include KG in this statement, but over the years, the Rhoads family have seen many benefit financially with the use of Randy's name and music. It did not go into the Rhoads' pockets, nor the UCLA fund. Call me crazy, but this has left me wary of how things are run, and for whose benefit.
If fans do not feel the need to ask these questions, then far be it for me to ask them. You could say California is like a bowl of cereal as far as the Entertainment Industry and Law are concerned. It is filled with a lot of fruit, nuts, and a whole lot of flakes. It is also the land of legal loop holes. My wonder at this point and time, is who owns the rights to the footage shot for the documentary ? If PM does, will any of the people interviewed be willing to be interview again for a new start ? I really hope our legal system comes through for the Rhoads' in the end, and in an expedient manner.
KG is in a special position to show those who admire Randy's extraordinary talent, that the differences in opinion can be used as a positive tool, to bring about a creative and positive end goal for the new, and young musicians of the future. Those differences ultimately are all about the love. Cheers !
Exactly Trig. I don't go out of my way to be special. Yeah, okay I still play. Do I have to pull the Randy card once in a while? Yeah, it helps. But then I would have to deny my whole life history if I didn't throw that card. So, it's kinda like herpes, you always have it. Umm.... I don't for the record. This board has been a fair warground for me. And I apreciate the mods for giving me equel ground to wage some infamous and epic battles. I stay tuned in in the event I must defend or correct any info about my friend. I do this. The Rhoads family does not. Is this fun? Nope.But I will never leave my post. Trust me when I say I am working hard to bring you all things you want, I have so much appreciation for all the fans, you all, by your partcipation, make this place work. And I thank you for that. I really liked TK when it was a Des deal, but these days Anthony spends too much time on his Knee's. In front of PM. Thank you Trigger for inspiring me to write this.
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My apologies to you folks...I don't mean to come off as judging how the board is run, or how people should express their feelings. 
Russian blood, perhaps....
I'm just really disheartened over the whole situation, really. If Dee isn't well, that's lousy.
A bunch of great and positive things have come to light in her son's name as of late, but it's been tainted by some truly sucky behavior, to the point of downright creepy.
A sorry shame, as this is a family who lost a son and brother early on. Not only have they given much of their life and time to his fans, they've touched and enriched the lives of all of the men, women and children they've taught music to.
Poor Dee, she turned so many away who have come to her for the past 28 years, who've wanted to make a film about her son. Now it appears she should've turned away the last one as well.
For example:
Kevin DuBrow bailed shortly after signing on.
Kelly Garni had a major falling out with Peter.
Bob Daisley won't sign off.
The Osbournes aren't involved....and now it appears Dakota and Randy's family are incommunicado.
I expected roadblocks from the Sharon, as well as Bob's concern with the original music, and it was too bad about the situation with Kevin, but now Kelly is out which is distressing, as is a possible rift with the family.
If all of this is true, then what the fuck?? I've tried to remain positive towards the film, Dakota and Peter, yet, I'm starting to feel like a fool for doing so...
Here's one time in my life I'd love to be proven wrong. If anything, to give the Rhoads' peace.
Fishy, I do apologize if I came off wrong to you. Kelly is a big boy, and is quite caple of speaking for himself. I need to remind myself not to post when I'm pissed off.
T.
* *Had to edit my post, after all of this time, Kelly's help and input is suddenly no longer needed? That he was now wrong for the film?
Some very important folks either haven't been, or no longer are involved with the film.
You don't have to admit anything to me, man. I had meant to come across as you were on the outs with Peter, and therefore, wrong in his eyes like Kevin.
I wonder if there are others from Randy's life who are still involved, yet are now questioning that decision?
Russian blood, perhaps....
I'm just really disheartened over the whole situation, really. If Dee isn't well, that's lousy.
A bunch of great and positive things have come to light in her son's name as of late, but it's been tainted by some truly sucky behavior, to the point of downright creepy.
A sorry shame, as this is a family who lost a son and brother early on. Not only have they given much of their life and time to his fans, they've touched and enriched the lives of all of the men, women and children they've taught music to.
Poor Dee, she turned so many away who have come to her for the past 28 years, who've wanted to make a film about her son. Now it appears she should've turned away the last one as well.
For example:
Kevin DuBrow bailed shortly after signing on.
Kelly Garni had a major falling out with Peter.
Bob Daisley won't sign off.
The Osbournes aren't involved....and now it appears Dakota and Randy's family are incommunicado.
I expected roadblocks from the Sharon, as well as Bob's concern with the original music, and it was too bad about the situation with Kevin, but now Kelly is out which is distressing, as is a possible rift with the family.
If all of this is true, then what the fuck?? I've tried to remain positive towards the film, Dakota and Peter, yet, I'm starting to feel like a fool for doing so...
Here's one time in my life I'd love to be proven wrong. If anything, to give the Rhoads' peace.
Fishy, I do apologize if I came off wrong to you. Kelly is a big boy, and is quite caple of speaking for himself. I need to remind myself not to post when I'm pissed off.
T.
* *Had to edit my post, after all of this time, Kelly's help and input is suddenly no longer needed? That he was now wrong for the film?
Some very important folks either haven't been, or no longer are involved with the film.
You don't have to admit anything to me, man. I had meant to come across as you were on the outs with Peter, and therefore, wrong in his eyes like Kevin.
I wonder if there are others from Randy's life who are still involved, yet are now questioning that decision?
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Hey fish, just read your post. Nice one. You and I, we be cool now. What you said was all correct. I've had a problem with this UCLA thing from the beginnig! Shit! If your going to UCLA in the first place, you already a loaded mother fucker! That's why I directed my way to do a charity in Randy's name through Little Kids Rock. And that's what's working great. Go right to the streets with music. Fuck these rich assholes with their hands out for a handout! Kinda wierd, but understandable, but the last guitar donated was to a 9 year black kid. He ripped it up on crazy train. But I'm having trouble getting permission to post the vid on my site! Ya know, cuz he's a kid and all. Geeze! Ya do something nice and they gotta go there? Don't matter to me. I have the video, I saw the kid get the guitar, that's enough for me. It felt great. I just can't post it yet! UGGGGG!Fish, we're cool.
Hey Whoopie. I'll admit to being wrong about PM. My excuse to you and others is that I was used. So was Steve. (who I stayed with at NAMM) That guy, PM is the worst thing to ever happen to us. And Randy. After all his lies, it is a day to day thing to recupe my reputaion.What a fuck! He was handed the keys to a mansion, but, he traded them for the keys to a trailer. The reason? More fucked up than you wanna know. Good and intelligent post whoopiedude.
And to you whoopie. I'm sure I will still be in the movie (????????) I signed off on it, (regretfully) I did so in the purest sense of the words, for you fans. I thought I was involved with some pretty big deal folks. It all looked so great. Then Kevin did his little deal. I have found out the reasons why he wouldn't do this film. In fact, I lost a friend in how I had to go about getting the facts. But we since made up! Thank God. Kevin had every reason to drop out. The deck was stacked against him. He knew what I now know way back then. And man oh man! Did we go at it when he said he wasn't doing the film. I told him, dude, don't put all this on me! But he said you do it and watch my back. I said okay. It is my understanding that there is no involvement with the Osbourns. So this guys gonna have to pull a rabbit out of his ass to put out any kinda movie on Randy. Half the story, is not the full story.
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I'm sorry, Kelly....I truly do feel bad for all of Randy's nearest and dearest. I thought this to be a great thing, not only to tell the story of this man's life, but a cathartic experience for what you people went through...for getting back in touch with people you lost contact with after Randy passed.
Now it seems like a bad idea, as many key players aren't involved..I was under the impression this was to be the story of Randy's life...what happened along the way?
Just disappointing...for all involved
T.
Now it seems like a bad idea, as many key players aren't involved..I was under the impression this was to be the story of Randy's life...what happened along the way?
Just disappointing...for all involved
T.
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I don't understand what happened, and I guess that is something we may never really know. If the Ozz's have a problem with PM, and that is why they won't participate, or maybe it's the Bob thing, or any number of things...GOD! Poor Mrs. Rhoads! Guarding Randy's legacy for so long and finally the chance comes to tell his story and it turns into a sh*tshow! Why oh why can't everyone put aside their differences and do this for Randy, his family, and of course ( 
) the fans! New footage or not...even if it's just all of the stuff we've seen a million times...just to have the man's story finally told and put out there for the rest of the world to see...Please?
) the fans! New footage or not...even if it's just all of the stuff we've seen a million times...just to have the man's story finally told and put out there for the rest of the world to see...Please?-
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