A very tough one indeed Paul because for a while it was a free run for Trolls because they tended to show up when we were thriving and slowed us down, it always seemed so contrived and well planned.
For a while we have been dealing with the Trolls and by and large things have been better since we stopped tollerating thier nonsense. Moving away from the well understood Troll, I think the other 'Troll like behavior' will need thinking about.
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It's still cencorship, but for the good. (imo)Paul Wolfe wrote:My question is: would it be censorship to not allow people to attack others with the express intention of damaging their reputations? Is it censorship to disallow threats of physical harm to people?The Flying Dutchman wrote:We have freedom of speech here.
But I really wonder if we are doing right to keep up stuff like this?
Also what comes over as 'criticism' to someone can be experienced as 'attack' to the other. Not allowing criticism would limit debates. Of course there is a fine line..... (not always easy)
To me this thread initially shouldn't have survived a second on this board regarding the circumstances and content. But that's just my opinion, not shared by everyone. Other say: 'freedom of speech' is 'freedom of speech', people should be smart enough to look through the bullshit what could be true or not.... And by letting people react a ridiculous 'attack' will be discharged by posters anyways.
I like to hear other people's ideas about this?
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Had this subject not had as many posts by the time I saw it I would have removed it like a shot, not because debate here is dead! but because it is clearly just about rehashing something already know. I am sure the person who posted it relied on the time differences to catch us while we were away fro m the forum.
When a thread has already raised its wings it is really difficult to cut it down but I think that though this was slipped in members respoded to it and gave it the treatment and contempt it deserved.
When a thread has already raised its wings it is really difficult to cut it down but I think that though this was slipped in members respoded to it and gave it the treatment and contempt it deserved.
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I think any controversial/inflammatory thread started by someone who is brand new to the forum, and/or has a proxy ip address should be axed personally. This isn't something I have always thought, but having thought about this on here and the other forum I post at, which also has it's own dramas too, it seems a good way to nip a lot in the bud.
I find it so spineless when the usual suspect trolls, come and start another account, not revealing who they are and then vent their 'views' LMAO. Why not be man/woman enough to stand by what you think... very cowardly.
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I find it so spineless when the usual suspect trolls, come and start another account, not revealing who they are and then vent their 'views' LMAO. Why not be man/woman enough to stand by what you think... very cowardly.
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When I saw the thread I had to know what the deal was...then I went to youtube and thought oh crap not you again. I listened to the entire hour of rambling and was convinced it was simply a vicious attack. Only then did I want the thread taken down. Even I have a morbid curiousity to know things. When personal items about the Rhoads family, which have no place on any video, were spoken about I was pissed off. Dude, you crossed the line of decency. So now I am simply more aware of what can leak out of the bowels of trolls...
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I kept silent for a long time, but I just wanted to clear a few details. We are currently trying very dilegently to get Larraime Busby's (Romeo Rose) video's removed from "You Tube". They were extremely hateful & full of errors, mistakes & just plain lies, meant to start trouble & pain. If any of you know or have spoken to Kelly Garni, you would know that without question. Kelly is a man who couldn't EVEN go to Randy's funeral because the pain of just seeing his dear friend Randy's coffin caused him too much anguish, a pain he still carry's with him in his heart everyday since it happened. Kelly is a book waiting to be written ! Do any of you honestly think that Kelly who has never shown ANY desire to make any money "off of Randy or the tragedy" for well over 20 plus years , would suddenly turn around & start acting that way??? It simply doesn't make any sense!!! He owns NO pictures of Randy & had NO idea what website Larry spoke of. Kelly has been a huge support to the Rhoads family all these years & Kelly Rhoads would be the first to agree & back that fact up. Kelly Garni has shielded the family as best as he could, from ugly & despicable people like Larry Busby.
When Kelly G. saw Larry & went to visit him, it was because Larry expressed an intrest in "jamming" with Kelly & meeting him. Kelly had a small window of time available & decided he'd find out what this guy was all about! Remember, it was Kelly who showed great concern & support to Larry when Larry cried & whined that he was "homeless & was considering suicide" . Most people with a "heart & a soul" would do that, as other's did from this site also! As Kelly said, "Larry was a very interesting bloke"! Now, if you watch the video Kelly made with Larry, you'll see it was 95% Larry & 5% Kelly!!! Who wants attention, really???
Once Kelly heard from Larry over & over, in phone calls, that Larry was "homeless" to the point that he claimed "he lost all of his guitars & possessions". Kelly went so far as to "invite" Larry to stay with him until he got back on his feet. Upon recent events, THANK GOD, Larry didn't take Kelly up on his offer!!!! When Kelly did visit Larry & his girlfriend, Susan, they showed no signs of things to come, even though Kelly offered many times to pay for food & limo & taxi service, the Busby's refused the offer, claiming as we all would that "Kelly was a guest" in their home. Many people can question Kelly's common sense regarding that visit with Larry, but Kelly really believed it was far better to make a friend instead of an enemy. We ALL make choices in life we regret!! It's easy to sit on the other side of a computer & talk about bad choices & what you would or wouldn't do.
The story Kelly has always told regarding Kathy Rhoads, is one of their favorites, it was two twelve year old BOYS, doing what little boys do, little brothers picking on their older sister!! At the time, both Kelly & Randy were punished & apologized to Kathy. Why in the world, should Kelly be "spanked" again now over something that happened 40 years ago??? To try & make the story seem evil & question Kelly's character over it, is silly isn't it?? Kathy understands that.
Funny, once Larry posted his "candlelight vigil" for Kelly, he suddenly has his guitar "juliet" the one he told Kelly was stolen by a hooker! Larry has made basically a "ripple" in Kelly's life, he was a "bump" in the road, he tried to break Kelly, but Kelly doesn't worry because the truth is on his side. The worst that Larry said in his usual ramblings was that Kelly had pictures & was going to sell them, which as I mentioned, is completely 100% false. That hurt Kelly, because he trys very hard daily to remove the horror of that terrible day. Kelly will never forget, turn his back on, or exploit his dearest friend in the world & Larry Busby has no friends, so he wouldn't understand that.
Larry Busby has crusified other innocent people, such as Cutter Brandenburg, & many more, just using "You Tube" as his weapon, since he's a coward. He causes pain & annoyance everywhere he goes & causes misery. He makes his video's at the library, trying to be clever & that's generally his "undisclosed location" Where he made the last video, who knows? Probably at his girlfriend's house, the one he claimed threw him out! Yeah, just like the claim he lost his guitar!
Under "public safety" announcements, Larry Busby AKA Romeo Rose, should be a poster boy!!! There was quite a few errors Larry made, regarding "Little Kid's Rock", Kelly is very proud & excited to be connected with their orginization & par the letter he recieved, posted on the RR site, they are very grateful & excited to have Kelly as a participant in their program also!! I suggest we all pray for Larry Busby, & hope God comes to his aide & helps Larry find some good in his heart & something constructive & positive to do with his time!!
When Kelly G. saw Larry & went to visit him, it was because Larry expressed an intrest in "jamming" with Kelly & meeting him. Kelly had a small window of time available & decided he'd find out what this guy was all about! Remember, it was Kelly who showed great concern & support to Larry when Larry cried & whined that he was "homeless & was considering suicide" . Most people with a "heart & a soul" would do that, as other's did from this site also! As Kelly said, "Larry was a very interesting bloke"! Now, if you watch the video Kelly made with Larry, you'll see it was 95% Larry & 5% Kelly!!! Who wants attention, really???
Once Kelly heard from Larry over & over, in phone calls, that Larry was "homeless" to the point that he claimed "he lost all of his guitars & possessions". Kelly went so far as to "invite" Larry to stay with him until he got back on his feet. Upon recent events, THANK GOD, Larry didn't take Kelly up on his offer!!!! When Kelly did visit Larry & his girlfriend, Susan, they showed no signs of things to come, even though Kelly offered many times to pay for food & limo & taxi service, the Busby's refused the offer, claiming as we all would that "Kelly was a guest" in their home. Many people can question Kelly's common sense regarding that visit with Larry, but Kelly really believed it was far better to make a friend instead of an enemy. We ALL make choices in life we regret!! It's easy to sit on the other side of a computer & talk about bad choices & what you would or wouldn't do.
The story Kelly has always told regarding Kathy Rhoads, is one of their favorites, it was two twelve year old BOYS, doing what little boys do, little brothers picking on their older sister!! At the time, both Kelly & Randy were punished & apologized to Kathy. Why in the world, should Kelly be "spanked" again now over something that happened 40 years ago??? To try & make the story seem evil & question Kelly's character over it, is silly isn't it?? Kathy understands that.
Funny, once Larry posted his "candlelight vigil" for Kelly, he suddenly has his guitar "juliet" the one he told Kelly was stolen by a hooker! Larry has made basically a "ripple" in Kelly's life, he was a "bump" in the road, he tried to break Kelly, but Kelly doesn't worry because the truth is on his side. The worst that Larry said in his usual ramblings was that Kelly had pictures & was going to sell them, which as I mentioned, is completely 100% false. That hurt Kelly, because he trys very hard daily to remove the horror of that terrible day. Kelly will never forget, turn his back on, or exploit his dearest friend in the world & Larry Busby has no friends, so he wouldn't understand that.
Larry Busby has crusified other innocent people, such as Cutter Brandenburg, & many more, just using "You Tube" as his weapon, since he's a coward. He causes pain & annoyance everywhere he goes & causes misery. He makes his video's at the library, trying to be clever & that's generally his "undisclosed location" Where he made the last video, who knows? Probably at his girlfriend's house, the one he claimed threw him out! Yeah, just like the claim he lost his guitar!
Under "public safety" announcements, Larry Busby AKA Romeo Rose, should be a poster boy!!! There was quite a few errors Larry made, regarding "Little Kid's Rock", Kelly is very proud & excited to be connected with their orginization & par the letter he recieved, posted on the RR site, they are very grateful & excited to have Kelly as a participant in their program also!! I suggest we all pray for Larry Busby, & hope God comes to his aide & helps Larry find some good in his heart & something constructive & positive to do with his time!!