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RR-ElectricAngel · Post by **RR-ElectricAngel** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:14 am

I have always been told I should do more networking. When it comes to all the dedicated "Randy" sites I simply found this one the easiest to get around and understand. I do get nervous when things get incorporated. Money always somehow creeps in and becomes the driving force behind everything and thus keeps the very thing I enjoyed doing for free out of reach or worse unaccessable. With Randy it seems everyone was sharing without some sort of kickback. Capitalism always brings out the worse in people. Just look at what Wall Street did to the financial system. Is the memory of Randy going to be incorporated right before my eyes? Do I have to pay a VIP price just to speak to other groups? Say it isn't so...

krgarni · Post by **krgarni** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:15 pm

I can understand your point of view. And I feel that your post was directed at me and my site somewhat. First let me say, I invite critics and cyninics alike to voice their opinion. It helps me to make my site better. As far as things like capitalisim getting in the way, well, economics is something no one can avoid. I am trying to do some good with my site. And the truly legal way to do it is something I can't avoid. And, it's quite complicated. But I do not let that get in the way of the spirit of the site. This is a great site, I agree. I have long participated on it as well as the other site and will continue to do so. In all, it takes up as much time as a full time job. But I get nothing for it. Anyone who requests it can find out where every penny went, I am an open book. Let's not forget too that there is room for anything Randy. Again it boils down to, no one twists your arm to join my site. But I do promise there will be things on it that you can't see anywhere else. I admit I'm only guessing that your post was directed at me, and If I'm wrong I apologize. Randys legacy is alot like a car, moving forward in a positive direction and sometimes comes to a stop or goes in reverse. But the fact remains, you gotta put gas in the thing to make it go. And gas ain't cheap! I hope that you would at least take advantage of the things on the site that are free, and at least give it a try. As always, thank you for your opinion and interest in Randy.

GUITARIDOL5682 · Post by **GUITARIDOL5682** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:22 pm

Kelli ? How have you decided to do a website on Randy at this time ?. I'm very surprised that you have not done this before now. I know that your site will be knowledgable but what can you honestly contribute to your site that UR or TK have not covered before. I've been a big fan since i was 12 years old i'm 42 now. I just find it so hard to be original when it comes to making a new thread which will be fresh and get a good amount of response. I can understand that people are discovering RR on a daily basis which is our next generation of fans. They will be able to see it as 'News' when alot of us look at this as old history. Which does repeat itself regular which is good for the newbies. I know that you have stories of old to share with us that are more then just personal memories growing up with Randy. But do we really need to have another site, i know that i'm probably sounding like i'm knocking it. But i do hope it takes off in a big way for you and everyone involved.

krgarni · Post by **krgarni** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:21 am

Actually, I'll be alot more hands on with my own site. I do a live chat once a week and post pictures on it no one has seen yet. Plus, I'm honest about the status of the film. Without bashing anyone. No drama. Whatever I tell you guys is all that I and the Rhoads family know about when it's coming out. Plus, I'm starting a foundation to help kids get guitars and BASS's who can't afford them. Someone brought up the fact that there already is a Randy scholarship out there. Here's the deal on that. While I think it's nice and all, the facts are, You have to ALREADY be a classical student at UCLA to apply for the scholarship. Now I'm not putting it down, but I think a little more on the street side. You have to have a shit load of money to be going to UCLA in the first place. My foundation gives instruments to kids who will probably never have that kind of a break. I did it once before on my own and now the kid (then 13) has a steady gig at the Bellagio and makes more money than I probabnly do! That's just how I think. And I'll never forget how hard it was for me and Randy to get equiptment and stuff. Check the board tonight and you'll see a cool shot. I'm not trying to compete with anybody, to quote Sid and Frank, "I did it my way".

RRfish · Post by **RRfish** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:08 am

I guess we all need to let everyone learn their own lesson's right KG !

RR-ElectricAngel · Post by **RR-ElectricAngel** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:28 am

My post was not directed at any one person but rather at the idea of changing how Randy's memory is kept alive. Maybe we seem like bandits without a leader but really we are simply independent thinkers that keep Randy's memory alive out of a need to let others know about Randy. I don't know enough about running a site. It does take a certain knack to create and maintain them. I applaud the individuals here who keep it going. But I don't remember anyone commenting about how hard it was to keep it going. This was their creative project to keep going. It was their way of saying thanks to Randy for inspiring them in some way. For me, I do it through music. My creative project will be to finish a long overdue album that says thanks to Randy for inspiring me to be a guitar teacher and musician. No one makes contributions to my project. I simply do it because my students want to hear what Randy was all about. He is classic, dedicated, and real.

It's a great feeling to give a guitar to someone or help them fix things. My students come in with strings that haven't been changed in 3 decades. I change them myself and even fix their cables when they break. I bought a Peavey T-60 once from a pawn shop but never played it. (It is right-handed wouldn't you know it.) I kept it in a closet but never could do anything with it. My brothers never took the time to even play it. What did I do? I gave it to a homeless man who had just turned his life around from drugs. The smile on his face was far better than simply giving a contribution for it to happen. It is a "personal" experience for me to help someone. That's all. Contributions to non-profit organizations have their place I suppose but I'd rather be the one who experiences that moment then just as a third party contributor. It's just too impersonal that way. I am not against it, I just prefer to be there in person.

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:09 pm

krgarni wrote:Now I'm not putting it down, but I think a little more on the street side. You have to have a shit load of money to be going to UCLA in the first place. My .

I would like to correct this if I may.

While University fees are indeed expensive these days, especially at a prestigious university like UCLA, a poorer student who would be eligible for the RR scholarship fund would really be of need of it, as they would most likely be funding the course from their own pocket (student loans etc).

Sometimes people assume just because someone is studying Classical music they are rich and privaliged and this is not the case in many students.

I am mentioning this as Mike and I are releasing the 2nd RRCD this March and I want people to see it's charitable worth. I myself wouldn't want to help someone either who already was finacially secure.
Last year we made enough money to pay for a terms worth of lessons for someone who loves music and needed them.

I am very passionate about this, sorry to be overly defensive, I want people to also dip into their pockets again in March! LOL
My best mate at music college was from a council estate in Yorkshire. His mum was a dinner lady and his dad a bus driver. He just happened to have a gift for the Flute. A British version of the RR Scholarship meant he was able to get his B Mus degree and he is now making a living teaching music.

It is not just really young kids that need help Kelly!!

Cheers

Matt

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:59 pm

If you live in state, UCLA won't break you, especially considering how good and well known of a school it is. A few of my friends go there and everything including housing, books, health insurance and university fees comes out to be around $18,000-19,000. Yes it is a lot of money, but comparatively speaking, that's peanuts for a top ranked school like UCLA.

Anyway, us students always need help paying for school.

Post by **The Flying Dutchman** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:26 am

Not sure about the situation in the US, but in the country I live every healthy kid with a 'paper route' can buy himself a (not too expensive) but descent electric guitar and amp if he really wants to.
(yep... they need to learn that sometimes you have to make choices, and that usually everyone needs money...)

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:28 pm

True, Dutch, there are inexpensive guitars available. www.rondomusic.com has loads of decent guitars at very reasonable prices... I'd hope that this program is aimed at those who really cannot afford $200 for a guitar.

Any kids who can afford an XBOX and games to go with it should not be eligible, in my opinion. However, I am all for helping kids who really cannot afford a guitar. I think some sort of sponsorship thing should/could be set up as well to help with lessons for at least the first year so the guitar doesn't end up sitting in a corner because the kid can't afford lessons.

Post by **The Flying Dutchman** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:15 pm

Paul Wolfe wrote:However, I am all for helping kids who really cannot afford a guitar.

+ 1 !

The problem (or challenge..) is how to decide if a kid really can't afford a guitar?
How you gonna do that...... ?

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:39 pm

That is the challenge... for starters I'd say no college kids

RRfish · Post by **RRfish** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:32 pm

This is how you do it, first you become a non-profit organization, and then follow the blueprint of organizations such as, Internosmusic.org No one was really aware of Jim, or his talent , prior to his tragedy, yet they made a great go with this organization. They have a PDF file you can down load to see how applicants were approved. A lot of work and networking went into this org. as well as a lot of love. Can you imagine what Randy's fans could do for so many children, who have their sights set on music, but do not have the source of income to provide them with the proper education and instruments ?

Cheers to Randy !

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:18 am

RRfish, thank you for that insight, that organization sounds incredible!

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:27 am

That site http://www.Internosmusic.org looks oke fish, it comes over open and fair, and people can see exactly who gave money and who received it.

RRfish wrote:They have a PDF file you can down load to see how applicants were approved. A lot of work and networking went into this org. as well as a lot of love.

Checked that PDF, gonna be a lot of work to verify things etc......
I think this site is nice to use as a sort of 'blue print' for others too.

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