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RRfish · Post by **RRfish** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:20 am

No disrespect intended when I post the Black Sabbath, California Jam, 1974...Don Arden, of Jet Records, was their manager at the time, 8 years prior to his contract with Ozzy and Randy, yet he had this filmed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpkS748IWw

Fast forward to 1980, Don Arden, Jet Records, had signed contracts, with Ozzy as well as Randy. Don Arden , Jet Records, had DOTG event filmed.

Cheers!

RhoadsRockPhotographer · Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:45 am

RRfish wrote:Fast forward to 1980, Don Arden, Jet Records, had signed contracts with Ozzy as well as Randy. Don Arden , Jet Records, had DOTG event filmed.

Cheers!

Three things:

1) The DOTG in question was '81, not '80.

2) The entire '74 Cal Jam and subsequent Cal Jam II in March '78 were pretty much filmed IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

3) Your hypothesis is 100% incorrect. Sorry to break it to you (once again).

RRfish · Post by **RRfish** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:11 am

Randy's Photographer: Re read my post, Signed with Jet Records, (Ozzy and Randy) 1980, not date of DOTG 1981 ! Jet, filmed DOTG,! No hypothesis, Sir Randyphotog, common sense!
But to each his/hers own ! I guess we have to agree to disagree, until proven otherwise !

GUITARIDOL5682 · Post by **GUITARIDOL5682** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:08 pm

RhoadsRockPhotographer wrote:
GUITARIDOL5682 wrote:Dave you went to a few of the Oakland colisseum DOTG shows. Do you remember which ones ended up on film.
I probably went to 4-5 DOTG shows between 1978 and 1985 (most of those being between '81 and '85). The 07/04/81 show was my 2nd DOTG show.

My "last" DOTG in 1985 which was headlined by Scorpions was definitely filmed (by someone). How do I know? Because normally when they filmed concerts they used BIGASS (that's a technical term, btw) professional cameras (which were set up on tripods practically ON the stage) like you would see today at a televised college/professionalfootball game. They ruined my photo sightline by being in the way for any show I was ever at which WAS being "filmed."

I can count the number on one hand (which WERE filmed) during the 8 years I attended most of the concerts I saw in OR, WA and CA.

Dave you are thinking like me, if you see a camera crew, the first thing you think is 'Oh! Good, i might be on TV' or Great! stuff they'll release this as a video. Or in your case "Shit! those hulks of cameras are in the way". LOL! I remember seeing shoulder mounted TV camera men at the Reading Rock 1982 festival. I thought the same then, but they focused on filming the bands for the large screens either side of the stage. But filmed footage from this show has become available over time. So like you have said you do remember these things, when you see them. Look at all the big open air concerts now. Its big boom cameras and fixed and mobile camera crews. Back in the 80's it was a rare thing to get hold of a pro recorded video of your fav bands. Plus as we all know film does deteriate over time if it's not looked after properly. Which will be a big problem for all those TV filmed archive pieces of footage when its time to spring clean the stock room. "Oh! thats old stuff recorded from the DOTG 1981 it'll be ruined get it in the bin !!!!...". Which will happen to alot of footage if its not looked after and transferred onto digital format.