what solo did randy put the most time into developing?

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:45 pm

i'm curious as to if there were certain solos that randy played that maybe someone knows if instead of just improvising it off the cuff, if there were some that maybe he put a considerable amount of time into constructing them like maybe days or possibly weeks?

it's like some of his solos fit the song they are in so perfectly, it makes you wonder, because some of them sound like alot of thought went into them, more so than just going in and improvising a solo from scratch on the spot. His solos have so many elements and some of them seem to have a beginning & middle and end to them. I mean alot of them sound like he put some time into the art of composing them as opposed to just a spomtaneous imprivisation.

he was certainly a master at it.

Paiste2002 · Post by **Paiste2002** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:15 pm

Great question Romeo I would guess Revelation Mother Earth. Randy really seemed to go all out on that solo. He brought everything and the kitchen sink on that tune. Goodbye to Romance would also be up there in terms of fluidity. I am not sure if he really had the time to think a lot of the solo work on DOAM. But you can clearly see he was putting classical ideas into the mix and what we do have to hear is out of this world.

On a side note you're a great player yourself sir! Bravo on the playing of Dee!

romeorose · Post by **romeorose** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:26 pm

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at the recording sessions at ridge farm, it would have been so insightful to see Randy working in the studio, and see his whole process of doing it all. He was a musical genius for sure.

Thanks you so much for the great compliment!

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:00 pm

I've read that he worked on Crowley for quite a while and Ozzy hated what he came up with. So Ozzy told him to wing it and they used that.

I'd guess that his off the cuff solo had a lot of the elements of what he was working on.

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:47 pm

I think that interview (I know the one you are talking about) was shown to be a fake. I can't remember WHY it was a fake, but it was a fake nevertheless.

Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:07 pm

Check the Max Norman interviews, most of his solos were well worked out, like little compositions in a song.

And if I remember correctly he didn't like to jam just for the sake of jamming that much, he rather wanted to jam to develop songs. (have to dig hard but I'm sure I read it somewhere)

wareagle · Post by **wareagle** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:39 am

sudorf · Post by **sudorf** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:53 am

Yeah, he said he was in the studio for 3-4 days and Randy showed the solo to Ozz and he said thats the one or something like that.

wareagle · Post by **wareagle** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:03 am

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:12 am

I think the SATO solo must have taken some working out; three key changes, the use of mainly melodic phrasing opposed to any repetitive sequences etc, and a real feeling that it contained Randy enjoying using all his trade mark Randy-isms to the full!

I think to even come up with chord progression, the solo plays over, was a work of genius!

Matt

NoQuattro · Post by **NoQuattro** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:19 pm

Cpt Matt Sparrow wrote:I think the SATO solo must have taken some working out; three key changes, the use of mainly melodic phrasing opposed to any repetitive sequences etc, and a real feeling that it contained Randy enjoying using all his trade mark Randy-isms to the full!

I think to even come up with chord progression, the solo plays over, was a work of genius!

Matt

That is a good one. I decided to figure out how to play this song today, as a matter of fact. Outside of the solo, it's pretty straightforward.

The solo, on the other hand, is crazy. That's gonna be a tough one to try and figure out by ear. It just shows you how good he was and how ahead of his time he was.

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:39 pm

wareagle wrote:i wish i had that kinda time to write. with school, family, lack of money, and lack of being able to practice uninterupted it leaves me jelous someonne is able to practice/write for that long.

i guess if you're really passionate about it, you take the time that's necessary

wareagle · Post by **wareagle** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:02 am

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:16 am

I know where you are coming from, Elliot. My parents never have and never will "get" why I play guitar so much. Not that they are against it. But if my GPA starts going down hill cause I'd rather jam and practice than study and read...not good.

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:27 am

NicDots wrote:I know where you are coming from, Elliot. My parents never have and never will "get" why I play guitar so much. Not that they are against it. But if my GPA starts going down hill cause I'd rather jam and practice than study and read...not good.

Nicole,

The best comment I heard about not understanding practising was from a mate who plays the Tuba.

He was auditioning for an orchestra; and the night before the audition was practising his piece. His dad knocked on his door to complain about the noise and said "I don't know why you have left it so late, if you don't know it now, you'll never know it"

Matt