Randy Rhoads stories

frank · Post by **frank** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:08 pm

TAB wrote:Frank, after Randy left for Ozzy, how much contact did you have with him? Sorry if you have stated this already in another thread. Just from what you were saying where Randy would sometimes be hard on himself in the QR days, his playing seemed to jump when Blizzard was recorded. Do you think the things that made him mad in QR were overcome and probably new advanced things challenged him angered him. Did he ever say anything?

hey tom. my contact with randy really dropped off to sporadic calls when he left for england. when he was in town he would call us over to the house to visit but everything was kept on a friendship level, no road stories. i think he needed to relax and forget "business" while he was home. so, no, i wouldn't know what challenges he faced at that point. i'm guessing he was still the perfectionist. it was his nature, y'know?

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:57 pm

hey frank,
i was listening to a tape of one of randys guitar lessons the other day on diary of an axeman (actualy i think it was one of your lessons

!!!) and it got me thinking, what was the purpose of taping lessons?
was it so students could revise lessons at home (which would be great since you cant refer back to a teacher outside of a lesson like you can with a book) and if so how useful was it?

sorry if this has been asked before...

siro_angel · Post by **siro_angel** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:27 pm

frank will probably agree with me here but i think they did it because so that the student can refer back to the recordings if the student missed anything and it can also help with practicing.

Simon

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:07 pm

siro_angel wrote:frank will probably agree with me here but i think they did it because so that the student can refer back to the recordings if the student missed anything and it can also help with practicing.

Simon

yep it certainly seems to be the most likely explanation, but im curious as i know of no other teachers who have done this which seems odd to me (then again i've never had a guitar teacher so what do i know

)

siro_angel · Post by **siro_angel** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:13 pm

rice_pudding wrote:
yep it certainly seems to be the most likely explanation, but im curious as i know of no other teachers who have done this which seems odd to me (then again i've never had a guitar teacher so what do i know )

Ive had two, one who would never allow me to learn any way but the "correct" way, him patronising me constantly, and you've done it wrong DO IT ALL AGAIN!! even if its one mistake DO IT ALL AGAIN! and then to tell me that a seven year old he taught was better than me and gibbering on how much i never will be able to pass the grade one (very basic guitar)

but the second, is like Randy Rhoads, patient, calming influence, no pressure and believes in the student's capaility to exceed, and he has put me on grade 6 stuff, shame seeing as im low on money atm i cant have anymore lessons till i get a job! but i have improved so much thanks to him believing in me and he was kinda amazed at the fact even though i struggle with rythmn and learning songs 100% right, i make up for it in feeling.

Simon

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:19 pm

siro_angel wrote:
Ive had two, one who would never allow me to learn any way but the "correct" way, him patronising me constantly, and you've done it wrong DO IT ALL AGAIN!! even if its one mistake DO IT ALL AGAIN! and then to tell me that a seven year old he taught was better than me and gibbering on how much i never will be able to pass the grade one (very basic guitar)
Simon

some teachers just suck , i almost had a teacher once, but he never turned up to the lessons

Doesnt matter though ive got on alright by myself

siro_angel · Post by **siro_angel** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:20 pm

lmao same here, i mean yeah i still struggle with songs by other people but my own songs are in my view amazing well not amazing amazing but theyre better than what i would ive done ages ago lol

http://media.putfile.com/Destiny---Simon-Fielder

http://media.putfile.com/Waves-of-Dream ... on-Fielder

(Two of my favourites that ive wrote myself)

Simon

frank · Post by **frank** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:05 pm

rice_pudding wrote:hey frank,
i was listening to a tape of one of randys guitar lessons the other day on diary of an axeman (actualy i think it was one of your lessons !!!) and it got me thinking, what was the purpose of taping lessons?
was it so students could revise lessons at home (which would be great since you cant refer back to a teacher outside of a lesson like you can with a book) and if so how useful was it?

sorry if this has been asked before...

it was recommended by randy. there was so much material, you couldn't absorb it in one sitting. thanks to that, i have several hours of randy.

rockermel · Post by **rockermel** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:32 am

lmao same here, i mean yeah i still struggle with songs by other people but my own songs are in my view amazing well not amazing amazing but theyre better than what i would ive done ages ago lol

http://media.putfile.com/Destiny---Simon-Fielder

http://media.putfile.com/Waves-of-Dream ... on-Fielder

(Two of my favourites that ive wrote myself)

Simon

I listened to both of your songs Simon..very good..my fave is the second one, Waves Of Dreams

All my best wishes in future songwriting!!
Cheers!

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:46 pm

thanks for the reply frank

!!!!!! im trying to listen to your songs simon but they wont load

i think i need a plugin...

siro_angel · Post by **siro_angel** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:20 pm

rice_pudding wrote:thanks for the reply frank

!!!!!! im trying to listen to your songs simon but they wont load i think i need a plugin...

i think you do i aint sure but try again they might be slow at downloading :S

Simon

Andy P · Post by **Andy P** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:49 pm

frank wrote:okay here's one i've never seen before in print. stupid trivia stuff i know but when randy was executing a particularly difficult passage (solos included) he would purse his lips and move his mouth like a rabbit. that's how i knew he was giving it his all.

Hi Frank and everyone, I just signed up, great place ya got here!
Anyway, I noticed Randy doing that on the After Hours tape, in the middle of Crowley, he makes the "rabbit face". thanks so much for all the stories you and Randy Magic have shared, unbelieveable!! Do you still have the fender champ? and was it a silverface? I have a 62 princeton and an old script mxr, and when I plug my les paul into them... yes!!! thanks for the mxr settings as well.

frank · Post by **frank** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:05 pm

ha ha. i'm glad someone can back-up the rabbit face story anyways. yes it was a silverface champ but i no longer have it. i left it with my brothers and it mysteriously disappeared. did the 10:00 settings help?

Andy P · Post by **Andy P** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:18 pm

yes it did! I already had started to use it as a clean boost, but I had the dist at 10 o clock and the level cranked. I like knowing that all randy needed was the barest setup and still.... it really is all in your hands!
I have really enjoyed reading yours and randy magics posts. I love the dialog about not being afaid of your guitar (either you or RM post). good stuff.
I honestly believe that simple set up was the basis of his later choices. Like the use of clean speakers (altecs) vs dirty speakers (celestions), just like a fender. Crank it up to get the tone out of the amp and implement the dist box to accentuate/color it, or push it farther. ya know? I have also taken that set up and then put it through my 50 watt Marshall jubilee head, to go for the ozzy sound. I have the jubilee set up to sound like the princeton to start, and then tweak it from there. so when I want to play harder stuff, that's the rig I go for. fun stuff!!! I love gear by the way, can't you tell! haha! for me, my les paul and strat, with my 62 or jubilee is all the amp and guitar I really need.
thanks frank!

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:09 pm

the 10:00 settings make a lot of sense when you remember that randy used a solid state head when playing live in the QR days... in my experience you just cant clean boost a solid state, so randy would have no reason for cranking up the leve,l in fact in my experience that would just make it sound rubbish.