Lindsay Lohan

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:22 pm

As a non USA poster...the name rings a bell but means little

deansolo · Post by **deansolo** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:20 am

Matthew wrote:As a non USA poster...the name rings a bell but means little

As a USA poster....even though she's a "household name". Her whole existence means very little.

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:27 am

Dan wrote:
Skully wrote:I adore my father ...
You hit the nail on the head there. The role of the father is absolutely critical and kudos to your dad for doing a good job.

Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders.

Thank you!

But really, the Dad has so much to do with how a woman turns out. So so much. It makes me sad when I hear about how many kids in the USA are raised not evening knowing their Dad, much less seeing him ever. Which brings me to Lindsay's dad...isn't he in prison or something?

I remember when I was younger, I always heard the expression that a girl marries a guy that's like her dad or like her brother. And while that grossed me out then, I totally wouldn't mind that happening someday. I would be the luckiest ever if I could meet/marry a guy half as cool as my old man or bro.

Going back to LL, I loved her in Mean Girls!

It just seems like she so rapidly deteriorated... She should just take a break. Leave Hollywood. Turn her cell phone off. I think it could do her a lot of good.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:05 pm

We dads, by and large, are dropping the ball with out daughters in this country. Even when both parents are together you can have an absentee father - golf, sports, buddies and whatever take the bulk of his free time. You wonder why they had kids in the first place.

From my experience, daughters have to know you are not only paying attention but that you delight in them as well. If you don't do it some other man will. My little girl has been seeking out my eyes since before six months of age. She is constantly looking to see if I'm paying attention.

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:30 pm

The subject of a dad's role is very important to me. Unfortunately the courts in Orange County California don't agree with me on the importance of dad's role.

My son was tossed out of school - in the sixth grade - for bad behavior. Mom demanded I take him and straighten him out. When I sought permanent custody, because fathering is a long term responsibility, mom changed her mind and enticed my son to come back by promising him gifts. In the end, the judge felt that seperating my son and daughter was more detrimental to my son (and daughter) than allowing him to live in a home with minimal supervision and minimal parenting.

In the meantime, my daughter (15) is loving life with minimal supervision, because she can run wild. Neither child wants to speak to me, because I represent authority and responsibility. Mom represents freedom because she is too busy focusing on her life to know what they are up to.

Lindsay Lohan needs parents who care. She needed that years ago and didn't get it. It makes me sad when a parent will sacrifice their child as a person in order to share in the wealth that child can bring into the home.

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:07 am

My dad said I had a habit of missing the school bus and hiding in his car as he drove to work. He would always get of the car and would see me curled up behind his seat. I only remember doing this a few times but he says it happened constantly.

"Papa don't go to work!!"

frank · Post by **frank** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:41 am

that is precious dan. you are truly a rich man.

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:15 pm

Dan wrote:We dads, by and large, are dropping the ball with out daughters in this country. Even when both parents are together you can have an absentee father - golf, sports, buddies and whatever take the bulk of his free time. You wonder why they had kids in the first place.

From my experience, daughters have to know you are not only paying attention but that you delight in them as well. If you don't do it some other man will. My little girl has been seeking out my eyes since before six months of age. She is constantly looking to see if I'm paying attention.

completely agree with you!
i dont think young couples realise that its not about being a good parent but being a good parent who's always there. Your kids have to be the number 1 thing in your life.

i'll probably end up having kids one day. hopefully i'll be an ok father but at the moment i know that my interests and hobbys would take the lead over being a parent (after all i am just a student

). So im not going to consider having kids until i know im ready to put my own life on the backseat and commit to parenting fulltime

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:24 pm

RockyRhoads wrote:The subject of a dad's role is very important to me. Unfortunately the courts in Orange County California don't agree with me on the importance of dad's role.

My son was tossed out of school - in the sixth grade - for bad behavior. Mom demanded I take him and straighten him out. When I sought permanent custody, because fathering is a long term responsibility, mom changed her mind and enticed my son to come back by promising him gifts. In the end, the judge felt that seperating my son and daughter was more detrimental to my son (and daughter) than allowing him to live in a home with minimal supervision and minimal parenting.

In the meantime, my daughter (15) is loving life with minimal supervision, because she can run wild. Neither child wants to speak to me, because I represent authority and responsibility. Mom represents freedom because she is too busy focusing on her life to know what they are up to.

Lindsay Lohan needs parents who care. She needed that years ago and didn't get it. It makes me sad when a parent will sacrifice their child as a person in order to share in the wealth that child can bring into the home.

Just noticed this...
I have three points I must make:

1.) You live in Orange County!?

2.) That sucks about your kids.

In America, they really should do a better job as to deciding who gets custody/rights to kids instead of always defaulting to the mothers, which is totally unfair. It seems like some divorced couples use their children as pawns against their exes these days. Not saying that about you or your ex, I'm just saying that's what I've gathered from my children of divorced people friends.
3.) In Asia, it's the other way around. The Father always gets custody. My mom's parents had to divorce and her father got custody of her....bad move in my opinion.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:12 am

frank wrote:
Dan wrote:My little girl has been seeking out my eyes since before six months of age. She is constantly looking to see if I'm paying attention.
that is precious dan. you are truly a rich man.

I'm George Bailey himself.

My dad liked spending time with us kids and his dad before him did the same. With help from above I plan on carrying on the tradition.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:51 am

rice_pudding wrote:
Dan wrote:We dads, by and large, are dropping the ball with out daughters in this country. Even when both parents are together you can have an absentee father - golf, sports, buddies and whatever take the bulk of his free time. You wonder why they had kids in the first place.

From my experience, daughters have to know you are not only paying attention but that you delight in them as well. If you don't do it some other man will. My little girl has been seeking out my eyes since before six months of age. She is constantly looking to see if I'm paying attention.
completely agree with you!
i dont think young couples realise that its not about being a good parent but being a good parent who's always there. Your kids have to be the number 1 thing in your life.

i'll probably end up having kids one day. hopefully i'll be an ok father but at the moment i know that my interests and hobbys would take the lead over being a parent (after all i am just a student ). So im not going to consider having kids until i know im ready to put my own life on the backseat and commit to parenting fulltime

The kids have to have priority. The top needs to be the marriage relationship from my experience (read: mistakes!). It's very easy to get wrapped up in the kid's stuff - especially when you love hangin with them. But when there is harmony in the husband/wife union it seems to flow on to your relationship with your children. They are secure in that your marriage is secure and even at 41 I vividly remember being terrified at the thought of my folks splitting up (just celebrated 50 years on June 8th).

Your children with be blessed beyond measure as I see it when they have a good model for their own marriages.

I heard it explained simply: "Men, do you really, really want to love your children and bless them? Love their mama with all you got".

Now pray that I can "walk the walk".

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:39 am

I am 100% agreement with you, Dan.

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:19 pm

Wise words

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:30 pm

Dan wrote: The kids have to have priority. The top needs to be the marriage relationship from my experience (read: mistakes!). It's very easy to get wrapped up in the kid's stuff - especially when you love hangin with them. But when there is harmony in the husband/wife union it seems to flow on to your relationship with your children. They are secure in that your marriage is secure and even at 41 I vividly remember being terrified at the thought of my folks splitting up (just celebrated 50 years on June 8th).

Your children with be blessed beyond measure as I see it when they have a good model for their own marriages.

I heard it explained simply: "Men, do you really, really want to love your children and bless them? Love their mama with all you got".

Now pray that I can "walk the walk".

your words came back to me last night. There was a report of some celebraty couple splitting up (not sure who) on the news. Hardly a good example. How many celebs actualy have succesful marriages/partnerships?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:06 pm

rice_pudding wrote:
Dan wrote: The kids have to have priority. The top needs to be the marriage relationship from my experience (read: mistakes!). It's very easy to get wrapped up in the kid's stuff - especially when you love hangin with them. But when there is harmony in the husband/wife union it seems to flow on to your relationship with your children. They are secure in that your marriage is secure and even at 41 I vividly remember being terrified at the thought of my folks splitting up (just celebrated 50 years on June 8th).

Your children with be blessed beyond measure as I see it when they have a good model for their own marriages.

I heard it explained simply: "Men, do you really, really want to love your children and bless them? Love their mama with all you got".

Now pray that I can "walk the walk".
your words came back to me last night. There was a report of some celebraty couple splitting up (not sure who) on the news. Hardly a good example. How many celebs actualy have succesful marriages/partnerships?

It would be hard to come up with a model marriage out of the celebrity world. Hard enough to come up with one just among us regular folk.

Celebs have to have it rough sometimes. I mean you work the whole day with people catering to your every whim. To come home to your spouse (who by definition WON'T cater to your every whim) and face reality has to do a number on ya.

I've been asked before what I think of gay marriage and if I think it is a mockery. Suffice to say I think we "straight" couples have done quite well making a mockery of it.

I hear Lindsay is back in rehab. Hope she can make the best of it. Saw some recent pics of her and she looked great - she growed up very nice.

Reminds me a lot of Ann Margaret.