The word "British"

[Alex]

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[Trigger]

I read about the election Alex, here in Britain the winning party has been described as an extreme right Nationalist party! I tend to take just how far right they are with a pinch of salt these days because I remember when a Dutch far right party was doing well and its leader was shot.
In Britain our far right parties are all Neo-Nazi with Racial distinctions promoted and nationalistic policy that leads to the goal of deportation of non white British and hate based on faith and life style, ie anti gay and mulim and anti Jew but that isnt the same in Europe where the Dutch party that I mentioned were led by an openly gay man and were supported by imigrant dutch voters as well.

[Alex]

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[Cpt Matt Sparrow]

Hi Alex

Thanks for explaining that in detail.

Like you, I despise political correctness. The two costs I feel are, millions of pounds wasted in bureaucracy and the cost of people not using their God given common sense.

With the BNP (British National party) it is similar Alex. Teachers and policeman have been fired, when they were found to have supported them. I don't like the BNP, or it's views, but don't think you can have a democracy and a system, then just because something comes along that you do not like, then call for them to be blocked/banned.
"You can say what ever you want; as long as it is what I agree with"
The irony is that it is often people who band around terms such as "fascists" and "nazis" that end up being what they claim to hate, by demanding that these parties shouldn't have a voice.

I like this quote
“I support the bigot's right to speak out, as if I start limiting them, they may start limiting me. I also support my right to ignore them.”

Matt

[Alex]

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[rice_pudding]

Alex,

Sad news from Sweden, to be honest nothing surprises me these days. When something comes into the public spotlight you often realize how easily people are manipulated, and the resulting press coverage always causes a stir. But there are much more surreal things happening behind closed doors, or even in plain sight!

I feel I've missed the point here though, what exactly do the SD stand for, and why are they the subject of such hate? I've done a little research on them, my perception is that they are traditional right wing, at least in foreign policy, with an emphasis on social welfare, which would explain the unemployed voters??? Perhaps a little outspoken...? They remind me of the UK Independence party.

Rob

[rice_pudding]

Looked into this a bit more and now i'm completely confused

Supposedly they have neo-nazi roots and are the devil?

On face value their foreign policy seems to be no more right wing than the current British government.

Either way their success, and the fallout, shows what happens when you make a party a victim. Attempting to subvert democracy never ends well.

Rob

[Alex]

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[rice_pudding]

Mentioning immigration is always akin to political suicide, but it depends, if you have a mandate from the people, you can be more forthright. 300,000+ votes certainly shows people are concerned about the issue. In any case it seems the whole of Europe is becoming very right wing at the moment.

The Conservatives (UK) want to impose a strict limit on the number of migrants (100,000 a year i believe), immigration was a reasonably prominent aspect of their campaign. And I know from first hand experience on the streets that racial tension is high, thus they can say what they want really.

France is deporting gypsy minorities and in Hungary, Bulgaria etc. they have proper nazis

I was under the impression that Sweden has always leaned slightly to the right, but i didn't know immigration was such an issue.

Rob

[NicDots]

I think it makes sense why being called British when you aren't exactly that would make one very angry, especially if another subgroup within that group was awful to your own group over a period of hundreds of years.
People in general need to be careful of what ethnicity/nationality they refer to people as. If you called a Chinese or Korean person Japanese, they'd not be happy with you: google Rape of Nanking and the Annexation of Korea by Japan.

[Alex]

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[Whipper]

A bit like how Canadians are usually assumed to be American when traveling abroad.

[Trigger]

I think it makes sense why being called British when you aren't exactly that would make one very angry, especially if another subgroup within that group was awful to your own group over a period of hundreds of years.

I can buy that. It would be like lumping together Sweden, Norway and Denmark, although there is no real stigma anymore between us. There is a certain prejudice attached to the name "Scandinavian", though.

Do you think so Alex? I have only ever heard people speak well of Scandanavian countries.
The only thing I have found odd about them is Sweden not joining WWII and Finlands position although I can see they had more pressing matters threatening them from the russian border, Although Manheim had a fasinating relationship with Hitler that was exposed in the recordings that were made in the train when they met in 1943 (I think it was 1943).

All that said I see how it was tough for those nations to fight the Third reich at that point in thier history.

[Alex]

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