I wish Ozzy would get a new guitarist

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:37 am

How old are you? Twelve?

Seriously, show us that you have some sort of history with this kind of music and some of us might cut you some slack.

What was your first concert? How many Ozzy shows have you been to? How long have you been playing guitar? Can you even do a pinch harmonic?

You come here with your punk attitude and piss me off to the point where I defend Zakk? Please grow up or move on.

GUITARIDOL5682 · Post by **GUITARIDOL5682** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:50 am

Just a few more posts then you'll qualify for the bootleg downloads Mr Mylde then please go forth and multiply

Sarab · Post by **Sarab** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:52 am

Hey GI, I think they disabled that "quota", but I could be wrong.

Anyway, while I'm not a big fan of Zakk, I do have to say that he does the job well. I still don't like the squealing, but the rest is good. He plays a helluva lot better than I could, since I haven't played the guitar in 30 years.

If you can find a better player, by all means, go get him and present him to Ozzy. I'm sure that he'd like to hear your opinion. Better yet, SHOW us your talent and let us determine who is better, you or Zakk.

And I'm just lovin' your screen name. Not a fan???

Get with the times. This is 2007. Move along, move along.

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:07 am

zmack mylde wrote:I really feel strongly that Zakk ruins Ozzy's songs live...them damn pinch harmonics.

you know, it was Ozzy HIMSELF that told Zakk to keep doing
the pinch harmonics 'cause he thought it would be a trademark
for Zakk ... and whaddya know ... the old man was right

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:18 am

The more I learn about country guitar and "chicken pickin" the more i understand where the pinch harmonics came from Zakk tried something original - applying country guitar techniques to metal through a blazing Marshall and ended up with a trademark.

He definitely relies on it too much ala EVH and the tapping, but it wouldn't sound like Zakk without some pinch harmonics.

As for Zakk messing up Randy's songs and Jake's songs, if you want to hear that stuff note for note, put on a CD and turn it up.

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:24 pm

Paul Wolfe wrote:As for Zakk messing up Randy's songs and Jake's songs, if you want to hear that stuff note for note, put on a CD and turn it up.

+ 1

not even Jake and Randy played their own songs
note for note

ken01fan · Post by **ken01fan** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:16 pm

Love him or hate him you gotta admit he provided Ozzy with something he wasn't accustomed to, STABILITY!! After losing his band {sabbath} his new guitarist {and best friend} not to mention his first wife. I think it's amazing that they are still together and making good music together some 20 yrs. later, given Ozzy's track record. So even if you think "Black Rain" is not a good album, without Zakk Ozzy probably wouldn't have done another album. 20 yrs. from now you younger guys will appreciate anything Ozzy put out such as "black rain". Because even if he is still alive he most definatly won't be making albums! So enjoy them while we still can. I don't think at this point in Ozzys life that he really wants to start over with someone new again. At least Zakk respects and pays tribute to Randy alot! He could be an ass and act like he never existed!!

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:21 pm

zmack mylde wrote: I meant to say he has no identity. He is a NEW JERSEY guy pretending that he is a Southern Biker...who does he think he is fooling? When he first came out he looked like Bon Jovi now he wants you to believe he is a Southern Biker...Please he aint fooling nobody....it's his fakeness that rubs people the wrong way. I hate how he tries to talk all tough, what a dumbass. And he better stop playing Randy's polka dot guitar...he aint in Randy's league to even own that thing.

I think its unfair to call Zakk fake. Everybody adopts images and styles based on who they want to be and who they feel they are. Think about goths, your not born a goth, you adopt that style of dress and outlook on life based on how you feel, you cant tell someone they're not allowed to be a goth. its the same with punks, rockers and bikers...

as for the polka dot v. what about all the other people who own a polka dot v. cause there are quite a lot and i wouldnt mind betting half of them can barely play the thing, but they dont get drawn up over it. And lots of them dont even buy sandoval models (how fake is that?)

we need to take a good look at ourselves before we condem zakky...

Stiltzkin wrote: not even Jake and Randy played their own songs
note for note

+ 1
everybody makes mistakes

cableguyxx · Post by **cableguyxx** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:17 pm

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:45 pm

I can honestly say that his biker look never gave me any impression he was trying to be "southern".

Back in the day he wore the hat and jeans and had that "shitkicker" thing going, but I still didn't think of him as "southern". I just thought of him as a rocker.

I think the progression from then to now has as much to do with the passage of time as anything. At one age you have certain interests and as time goes by you develop new interests. I don't know that I'd say Zakk "grew up" and changed his tastes, but I'd say he has evolved over the years.

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:00 am

I don't think it's a "southern image" he's trying to project (or was, years ago). I think it's just a "redneck" thing. And believe me, rednecks are found everywhere in the US.
And am I the only person that DOESN'T care about how Zakk looks? It should be about music first and foremost. Zakk could look like Freddie Mercury so long as he put out good jams.
Saying that, I don't like anything he really puts out these days (aside from most of the riffs he put on the new Ozzy album).

zmack mylde · Post by **zmack mylde** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:09 am

Skully wrote:I don't think it's a "southern image" he's trying to project (or was, years ago). I think it's just a "redneck" thing. And believe me, rednecks are found everywhere in the US.
And am I the only person that DOESN'T care about how Zakk looks? It should be about music first and foremost. Zakk could look like Freddie Mercury so long as he put out good jams.
Saying that, I don't like anything he really puts out these days (aside from most of the riffs he put on the new Ozzy album).

His looks are secondary wether he can play or not is the issue. He can't phrase to save his life.

NicDots · Post by **NicDots** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:45 am

You've established that you don't like Zakk a few times already. Bring something new to the table.

Sarab · Post by **Sarab** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:00 am

zmack mylde wrote:
His looks are secondary wether he can play or not is the issue. He can't phrase to save his life.

But, THOUSANDSof people know who he is. Can you say the same for you??

Post by **Trigger** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:10 am

Sarab wrote:
zmack mylde wrote:
His looks are secondary wether he can play or not is the issue. He can't phrase to save his life.
But, THOUSANDSof people know who he is. Can you say the same for you??

Well thats a good point but!........we were lucky enough to see Ozzy in those glory years Gina, I thank Zakk for being able to keep the Ozzy band going for another 20, years giving even more people the chance to see some great music live.

I don't mean to rub anyones nose in it but those shows from back in the early to mid 80's were amazing

sadly they were the last time that the band was really great.

Ian

Ultimate Rhoads

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