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Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:52 pm
by rhoads56
randy will never die wrote:So is Gibson have a licenses to sell the tuner
I know for a fact that Gibson did not invent the tuner
Why would you put millions if dollars into a product and not sell a good version
Gibson haven't made decent guitars in decades. All brand loyalty aside, they cut a LOT of corners.
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:49 pm
by Paul Wolfe
rhoads56 wrote:Gibson haven't made decent guitars in decades. All brand loyalty aside, they cut a LOT of corners.
I hear that a lot. That's why I do my guitar buying at the pawn shop and not Guitar Center
There's a Seville Les Paul (lawsuit era) that I've got my eye on for $325 right now at my local pawn shop.
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:38 pm
by randy will never die
I do t buy gibsons because of the price I buy chinese imports or fakes or replicas
They are cheaper and they are dam good guitars just need to change the hardware and electronics
I buy gibsions of DHGATE
I buy fenders in pawn shops and buy ibaneizes from my local music store
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:33 am
by SammyBones
Uh.... the most likely reason for a high warranty/repair or return rate is probably user error. People don't read the manual. People are impatient. People don't understand how it works making something impossible that is really easy. How many people who play guitar can't set up their own guitar? It is no surprise to me that they are returned. If you have a guitar with auto tuners, or have a robot guitar that you hate... sell it to me. Or better yet, give it to me as a gift since I'm your favorite guitar tech.
You can find me easily at
http://www.sammybones.com
rhoads56 wrote:Paul Wolfe wrote:rhoads56 wrote:I used to do warranties for Gibson. Their self tuning guitars have a 135% return rate. That means for every 100 guitars they build (that have self tuning), on average they are returned for warranty 1.35 times.
Good to know... could you give a common reason? The system just not working?
To save weight, the tuners are made from plastic. If the self tuning is engaged, and you try to manually tune (trust me, it's instinctive... or when the battery dies) you break the machinehead.
The electronics are very tempermental.
The batteries fail and have a low lifespan. They are a very unusual voltage (I dont remember, but it is not common... like 7.8 volts or something), and have a unique clip to stop you buying another off the shelf. You have to plug the guitar into a special charger, through the jack hole. You can't play while it charges.
The tail piece has plastic inserts for the ball ends of the strings to sit in. These wear and break.
Zero shielding causes electronic interference.
All surface mount, and unique connectors, mean you need to modify the circuits when swapping pickups. Dodgy pot? Going to be expensive to fix!
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:31 am
by Paul Wolfe
SammyBones wrote:Uh.... the most likely reason for a high warranty/repair or return rate is probably user error. People don't read the manual. People are impatient. People don't understand how it works making something impossible that is really easy. How many people who play guitar can't set up their own guitar? It is no surprise to me that they are returned. If you have a guitar with auto tuners, or have a robot guitar that you hate... sell it to me. Or better yet, give it to me as a gift since I'm your favorite guitar tech.
You can find me easily at
http://www.sammybones.com
Welcome Sammy.
How about your point of view on these tuners beyond blaming 'user error'? It's always good to have new members here, but this post seems like a shameless attempt to drum up business. Give me some background on your experience with these tuners and I'll change my opinion.
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:49 pm
by bambo
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Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:39 pm
by Paul Wolfe
$329 to tune a guitar? Thanks, but Ill stick with my $8 Snark and use my hand to turn the keys.
Re: Gibsons new min E tuner
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:09 am
by randy will never die
Not to be mean man but this is basically the same thing as the mini E Tuner
If you look at the web page before you click on it it says mini E Tuner Gibson
I have a feeling that these people are the makers of the mini E Tuner and they are just contracting out to Gibson for some extra pocket cash