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Tito wrote:i love the way he understood the modes and how he danced around them.like the way he threw a mixolydian and locrian in one sequence..
WTF are you smoking dude ;-) is this the recipe for a Spanish paella.. ;-)
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lmfao!!!!!!!
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Tito wrote:lmfao!!!!!!!
Does anyone remember the wolf marshall Randy instruction books. They would come with a CD, and Wolf Marshall would talk about the songs. "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." It was good if you wanted a music theory class but it was horrible if you just wanted to learn the licks. My singer and I still use Wolf Marshall lines when describing any piece of music as a laugh. I guess you had to be there....
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mpavlic wrote:
Tito wrote:lmfao!!!!!!!
Does anyone remember the wolf marshall Randy instruction books. They would come with a CD, and Wolf Marshall would talk about the songs. "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." It was good if you wanted a music theory class but it was horrible if you just wanted to learn the licks. My singer and I still use Wolf Marshall lines when describing any piece of music as a laugh. I guess you had to be there....

Yeah totally remember those, luckily I was into music theory, but otherwise not to helpful..Randy's use to the flattened 5th was brilliant as well as his diminished scales. Joe Holmes said that last time he saw Randy, who was with him mom at the mall told him to practice those diminished scales....This was on a break from tour.
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GUITARIDOL5682 wrote:Paul i only see guys who actually play guitar who are interested in the structure of his skill. I don't play but are familiar with guitars and gear etc.. Yeah i get what your saying but i think that question can be heard instead of being actually discussed if you get what am saying...don't talk about it just listen ;-)
See, I really don't get that. Why would someone who doesn't play guitar want to discuss the gear a player uses? I love the sound of a good drummer but have never wondered about the differences between brands of drum heads or cymbals or kick pedals.

I get why a player would want to know about that stuff, though.
mpavlic wrote: Does anyone remember the wolf marshall Randy instruction books. They would come with a CD, and Wolf Marshall would talk about the songs. "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." It was good if you wanted a music theory class but it was horrible if you just wanted to learn the licks. My singer and I still use Wolf Marshall lines when describing any piece of music as a laugh. I guess you had to be there....
Why would you laugh at that? As a guitar player, if I want to create something in the vein of a player like Randy, it's helpful to understand something like, "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." That's why guitar magazines discuss this stuff.

Do you laugh at Satriani videos when he explains things? I'm not trying to find fault, if you find it funny, then you do. I'm just trying to understand why.
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Paul Wolfe wrote:
GUITARIDOL5682 wrote:Paul i only see guys who actually play guitar who are interested in the structure of his skill. I don't play but are familiar with guitars and gear etc.. Yeah i get what your saying but i think that question can be heard instead of being actually discussed if you get what am saying...don't talk about it just listen ;-)
See, I really don't get that. Why would someone who doesn't play guitar want to discuss the gear a player uses? I love the sound of a good drummer but have never wondered about the differences between brands of drum heads or cymbals or kick pedals.

I get why a player would want to know about that stuff, though.
mpavlic wrote: Does anyone remember the wolf marshall Randy instruction books. They would come with a CD, and Wolf Marshall would talk about the songs. "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." It was good if you wanted a music theory class but it was horrible if you just wanted to learn the licks. My singer and I still use Wolf Marshall lines when describing any piece of music as a laugh. I guess you had to be there....
Why would you laugh at that? As a guitar player, if I want to create something in the vein of a player like Randy, it's helpful to understand something like, "Here, you can hear Randy utilize the Lydian mode over the classic I IV V progression." That's why guitar magazines discuss this stuff.

Do you laugh at Satriani videos when he explains things? I'm not trying to find fault, if you find it funny, then you do. I'm just trying to understand why.
I don't know. I'm not knocking instructional videos. I majored in music in college, taught music for 9 years and I used to be in a professional working band. I learned all of this stuff, how to read and write music etc. Once I got out of school, I just never sat down and said, "Ok, I'm going to utilize this or that." I might sit and ask myself what key it's in etc. That would be more when I wrote my own music. When I was learning songs in bands or for fun, I never sat and analyzed what Randy was doing. I learned most of it by ear so that might have something to do with it.

I just, I don't know, Wolf Marshall and all of those instructional books that go that deep into music, to me it's just overkill. I would think most people (myself included) just want to play the songs, learn the licks etc. I never once, ever, sat and thought about modes and scales. That's just me though. To each his own.
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