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 Post subject: RR and EVH: Maybe A Bit Overrated?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Yes, to a teenager in 1980, they both would have sounded "cool" playing relatively proficient lead guitar with so much distortion.

But as cool as they sounded, aren't their technical abilities a bit overrated? Or am I wrong?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UGNBMNeytZU

If Al Di Meola had used more distortion at 4:05, he'd sound "cool" too. And if you take away the distortion from a RR or EVH solo, it doesn't really sound so great.

This is just my opinion. I still think RR and EVH are amazing-sounding in a rock guitar context, but take away the distortion and tricks, and they're not quite so hot.


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 Post subject: Re: RR and EVH: Maybe A Bit Overrated?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:16 am 
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kamalayka wrote:
But as cool as they sounded, aren't their technical abilities a bit overrated? Or am I wrong?


Yes, you are wrong.

Ed and Randy did things others couldn't at the time. They impressed and astounded professional guitar players at the time.

To those who weren't around to experience these guys first hand, it is difficult to understand what they brought to the table. Today the bar is higher because of what they did.

As for Di Meola, he's a jazz player which is a totally different genre. It's a matter of taste. Jazz guys will always claim to be better than rock guys, just like metal guys will laugh at pop or country guys. All have talent, but opinions determine who is "better".

If you were to listen to Randy's lesson tapes you hear abilities far beyond what was displayed with Quiet Riot or Ozzy. Talk to former students and they would tell you Randy could play Di Meola's Mediterranean Sundance note for note in 1977.


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 Post subject: Re: RR and EVH: Maybe A Bit Overrated?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:06 pm 
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Di Meola is great, no doubt, but this apples & oranges, EVH & RR laid out the ground and inspired literally thousands of us to pick up the guitar and play..Groundbreaking, innovative players is what EVH & RR are and were and their musically contributions stand up to any of today's most accomplished players..As Paul mentioned, Di Meola, as great as he is (legato phrases, blazing speed, arpeggios, etc) plays a completely different kind of music...Shoot, look at some of Stanley Jordan with his two hand technique, very cool, but not appealing to my taste...


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 Post subject: Re: RR and EVH: Maybe A Bit Overrated?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:44 am 
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devorerd wrote:
very cool, but not appealing to my taste...


Exactly...


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