The Religion, Atheism and Science Discussion

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:16 am

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McLowery · Post by **McLowery** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:47 am

highpriestess wrote:lol. i LOVE mercyful fate! never been real big on king diamond's vocals, but i ALWAYS loved, loved, loved the guitars in all their songs.

And we haven't even TOUCHED on all things Anton LaVey in this thread. THAT was me being polite

Yeah, Hank Sherman and Michael Denner wrote some of metal's finest moments. I think Mercyful Fate was definitely a corner stone for the foundation of modern metal, albeit King's vocals kind of did what Yngwie did became stagnant. It's just too much anymore.. I will say this though, the King Diamond albums "Abigail" and "Conspiracy" stand on their own merit when it comes to that era of metal, IMHO.

It is funny how most people believe that Satanism is the act of worshiping Satan. What was the devil's downfall? VANITY!! The worship of the self (which I think has more merit than externalizing mental energy, keep it focused and internal and nothing shall stand in your way.)

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:38 am

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Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:30 am

Stiltzkin wrote:Religion is a crutch for people who are too weak to make it through life on their own.

Explain in greater detail what you mean Robin please...

Music is a crutch too and so is having a partner to love and best friend to share good times with ('Good times

sorry saluting Justin Lee Colins!)

I am too weak not to have those things but it doesn't make them any less true or my love for those things not real.

Matt

Zakk Daniels · Post by **Zakk Daniels** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:06 pm

Matthew wrote:
Stiltzkin wrote:Religion is a crutch for people who are too weak to make it through life on their own.
Explain in greater detail what you mean Robin please...

Music is a crutch too and so is having a partner to love and best friend to share good times with ('Good times sorry saluting Justin Lee Colins!)

I am too weak not to have those things but it doesn't make them any less true or my love for those things not real.

Matt

Well said Matthew,

I agree with you 110%.

highpriestess · Post by **highpriestess** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:54 pm

i love that everyone is thinking outside the box here!

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:52 am

this is AMAZING!! It is about Quantum Physics and the marriage of science and religion.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tSk51Lp-vHU

McLowery · Post by **McLowery** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:17 am

I LOVE MATT's SIGNATURE!

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:28 am

Mike!!

I wanted to write my top five Ozzy songs too

Mr Mclowery, Revelation Mother Michael, Killer of Lowery's, Miracle Michael and Diary of a Mike

Matt :0

highpriestess · Post by **highpriestess** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:50 pm

awww. Matty and Mikey... sittin in a tree....

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:44 am

Matthew wrote:
Stiltzkin wrote:Religion is a crutch for people who are too weak to make it through life on their own.
Explain in greater detail what you mean Robin please...

Music is a crutch too and so is having a partner to love and best friend to share good times with ('Good times sorry saluting Justin Lee Colins!)

I am too weak not to have those things but it doesn't make them any less true or my love for those things not real.

Matt

i just feel that people use religion to justify their actions.
christians have done this since the birth and the muslims
still does it ... Jihad anyone ?

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:48 am

Stiltzkin wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Stiltzkin wrote:Religion is a crutch for people who are too weak to make it through life on their own.
Explain in greater detail what you mean Robin please...

Music is a crutch too and so is having a partner to love and best friend to share good times with ('Good times sorry saluting Justin Lee Colins!)

I am too weak not to have those things but it doesn't make them any less true or my love for those things not real.

Matt
i just feel that people use religion to justify their actions.
christians have done this since the birth and the muslims

still does it ... Jihad anyone ?

Thanks for expanding. Although doesn't anyone use their belief system to justify their actions and thoughts?

Can you explain the difference between a religous person who uses religion to justify their actions and someone else?

Matt

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:09 pm

Matthew wrote:Although doesn't anyone use their belief system to justify their actions and thoughts?

To a certain degree, yes ... but religion seems to be the cause
in majority of the cases. Makes you wonder why though ?!

Cpt Matt Sparrow · Post by **Cpt Matt Sparrow** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:22 pm

Just so people know exactly what you mean Robin, you mean religions being the cause of trouble don't you?
The belief system you believe can be used and has been used to people's own ends, rather than what they say they believe?

I used to think this was a possibility, but there are sites with just as much compelling evidence that just as much cruelty has been caused by atheists.

My conclusions I have drawn for the time being are that it is people that are essentially the cause of these things (suffering cruelty), and not atheism or any religion etc.

It is another very interesting topic though!!!

Matt

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:36 pm

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