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 Post subject: IS THIS A REAL RANDY RHOADS AUTOGRAPH
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:13 pm 
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To My Fellow RR Members,

A few months ago i purchased a Randy Rhoads autograph off of ebay. The seller didn't have any information on it the discription was randy rhoads autograph got it on the Blizzard tour in 81. There was no picture of it so i emailed the guy and asked him for a story on how this was obtained and then asked him for a decent picture. this is what he had emailed me

" was 12 when I met him and ozzy. a year later when he died in the plane crash, it made my whole world crash to the ground. I still listen to some of his stuff today and it brings tears to my eyes. he was such a cool guy. when we gave him the slips of paper to sign, he almost didnt want to do it. He thought it would look stupid on plain paper. He was trying to have one of his crew find a picture or something else that would look cooler with an autograph. he kept reaching in his pockets trying to find a pick to give me, but he didnt have any. we couldnt find anything, so he was laughing his ass off about the paper as he was signing. ozzy was out of it though. i thought he was gonna pass out at any moment."

anyways Months pass he wrote me a letter on it stating how it was obtained and why he wanted me to have it. So i was Confident this was going to pass Psa Dna And just got it back today it didn't can you guys please give me an input on this Randy Rhoads signature and could Psa Dna be wrong?

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:10 pm 
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that looks real...

but im not sure however we have some experts on that here haha


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:47 pm 
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Yeah if anyone on this forum can help, i heard Psa Dna are not too familiar with RR signatures


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:59 am 
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We have a thread on How To Authenticate a Randy Rhoads signature. The most obvious fake would be that it was signed in a silver Sharpie (which did not exist until 2002). I saved this material and will post it here if it is alright with the original author.

How To Authenticate Randy’s Signature

Please note in the attachment I have provided here the one way of knowing you have an original signature is by the detail in how he attached his letters to the 'd' in his name. There is a distinct connection to the stem of the 'd' and although his signature style changed in many ways-especially the R's, he never changed this detail in his signature over many years. It is one i.d. method that determines a real sig. It is too hard to fake this detail.(Please note Randy did do a sloppy version of his signature also where he did his 'd' a little different-you can see examples/explanation of that in my next post below)

The signature detail is highlighted by the white boxes in the attachment photo I included here. The white arrows are just pointing out the way he would sweep up to the 'd'. It is where he connects that sweep to the stem of the 'd' that is crucial and highlighted by the white boxes. Note the sweep connects to the stem of 'd' always a bit above the 'o' part of the d. Most of us would connect to the circle part of the d as it is a much easier transition. I don’t know how he maintained a smooth flow doing the 'd' part. Like do you complete the stem part first or the o part? You have to backtrack to complete the d the way he does it. If you cant do it properly you will just make a nice big patch of ink. That's why I have never seen anyone who has sold a fake bother to even try do the d properly-they will just do the d the way you or i would normally do.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:33 am 
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Mine Looks Similar what do you guys think!?!?


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:53 pm 
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pazme90 wrote:
Mine Looks Similar what do you guys think!?!?


Hi pazme a big thread covers this subject in detail and your signature does look 100%. But saying that it could be a facsimile or a traced signature. Some people are good at forging and some are bad and are obvious fakes. You can get a test done to help, which lets you know how long the ink has been on the paper. If its new that will tell you its not real. If its 30 years old its genuine. Check out the link to the thread below.. Welcome to the forum pazme do you have other RR collectible items ?.

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm 
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Actually the guy i bought this off of had a bunch of rhoads stuff he had held onto like some bootlegs and guitar magazines. but anyways this is my only randy collectable. But damn i am a huge RR Fan! i actually ran into the funeral pamplet on ebay a few months back


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Looks real, here is one to compare that is from the Music City guitar seminar a good friend of mine got from Randy himself..

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:51 pm 
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Tom could you give me an idea of the size of that signature. As i have noticed over the years that Randy never wrote his signature large. He would write his name tightly and compact and alot of forgeries make this mistake and do the signature big. I'm not saying yours is a fake i'm just curious to what size it is Cheers :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:36 am 
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yea it's not fake, the dude was at the guitar seminar. The plastic it is in is a baseball card size and made for baseball cards. It's about in USA non metric size 1 and half inch long. Slightly a little larger than one of my others I have. I have also seen 2 others from the seminar that Randy wrote to my friend that says "keep playing" and personalized them that about the same size as this. They are on the back of the Music City flyer. Also look at the autograph that Randy signed on the Blizzard of Ozz tour book in marker in Detroit that went on ebay a couple years ago. That was larger than his usual sigs.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:52 am 
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Cheers Tom those other two signatures you mentioned are they available to view on the internet ?. I'd like to see that Music City flyer. You don't see alot of flyers from gigs. I've just scored for a one from the HMH Portvale 1981 the thing thats good about this one is that it has Ozzy Osbourne printed on instead of Black Sabbath. Ihis must of been a later advert. I'm not sure how long it was from Sabbath pulling out and Ozzy taking over on the bill. but with Don Arden managing both bands at the time i think he would of done this with some notice. As this was mentioned in the press at the time ?.
Tom another question for you have any photos ever came from the guitar seminar that you know of ?.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:45 pm 
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Yea that autograph is about the same size as other it's just the camera angle. The other autograph and flyer aren't ont eh net and I don't have. That's all I have seen from that day. Cool about your Port Vale program. I saw some on ebay before.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:22 pm 
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pasme90 Did you ever find out if your autograph was authentic?

Cool Member I have the same exact autograph. Is yours on a slip of yellow paper? I am trying to authenticate
mine. Was there any chance that Randy signed more than one on that day? Any help would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:43 pm 
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Cool Member I have the same exact autograph. Is yours on a slip of yellow paper? I am trying to authenticate
mine. Was there any chance that Randy signed more than one on that day? Any help would be appreciated.[/quote]


@Kasami

Did you win yours off ebay? the seller did mention he signed one for him and his brother in law. And his brother in law told him to hold onto the one i bought. so the seller did have two identical signatures.I sent it in to Psa/Dna but it failed and was deemed fake did you get yours authenticated? pm me if you want ill_sick_productions@yahoo.com


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2 rhoads autographs trying to upload


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