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Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:32 am
by Tito
there is no money in releasing footage of randy with ozzy thats why she dont release it.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:42 am
by LongRhoadsAhead
Tito wrote:there is no money in releasing footage of randy with ozzy thats why she dont release it.

I agree with that if it was labeled as some massive Randy Rhoads Tribute. As sad as that is. However I think there would be good money for her if she had it labeled where Ozzy was the focus. Imagine a title along the lines "The Golden Ozzy Years" or "All Aboard The Crazy Train" with all kinds of graphics and shit of Ozzy and Randy. If she had a title showcasing Ozzy and promoted well, I think that would sell like crazy!

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:49 pm
by orion_damage
LongRhoadsAhead wrote:
Tito wrote:there is no money in releasing footage of randy with ozzy thats why she dont release it.

I agree with that if it was labeled as some massive Randy Rhoads Tribute. As sad as that is. However I think there would be good money for her if she had it labeled where Ozzy was the focus. Imagine a title along the lines "The Golden Ozzy Years" or "All Aboard The Crazy Train" with all kinds of graphics and shit of Ozzy and Randy. If she had a title showcasing Ozzy and promoted well, I think that would sell like crazy!
I think that's pretty much what they tried to do with 30 Years After the Blizzard. A mini documentary of the early years being loosely based around Ozzy and Randy along with partial concerts.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:11 pm
by Paul Wolfe
Ozzy doesn't sell nearly like he used to... the old guard is becoming just old.

I saw Priest last November and while I enjoyed it, the crowd wasn't very big and they are calling it quits because their time is done. Saw Motley Crue a couple weeks ago and the seats I paid for were upgraded to better seats because they didn't sell as many as they expected to - and this is their final tour.

A DVD with Randy @ $20 might net $100,000... to someone with a net worth of $220 million, that's not really much money. It would sell to the few diehard fans, but that'd be about it.

How well did the 30th anniversary box sell?

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:42 pm
by orion_damage
Paul Wolfe wrote:
How well did the 30th anniversary box sell?
I don't know but I'm sure a single dvd/blu ray full concert of the Randy Era would sell better than the box set. I want the box set but the price tag keeps me at bay.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:11 am
by Tito
randys time came and went unfotunately.theres no money in releasing anything with him.if there was kathy and doug would be behind it.enjoy what we have now cuz the train stopped in 1987.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:57 pm
by devorerd
After Delores joins Randy...we'll get something, not sure what it will be, but there will be something..guarantee it..

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:10 pm
by Stiltzkin
sadly, I believe this is the case too :(

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:28 pm
by CanuckRhoadsFan
Paul Wolfe wrote:Ozzy doesn't sell nearly like he used to... the old guard is becoming just old.

I saw Priest last November and while I enjoyed it, the crowd wasn't very big and they are calling it quits because their time is done. Saw Motley Crue a couple weeks ago and the seats I paid for were upgraded to better seats because they didn't sell as many as they expected to - and this is their final tour.

A DVD with Randy @ $20 might net $100,000... to someone with a net worth of $220 million, that's not really much money. It would sell to the few diehard fans, but that'd be about it.

How well did the 30th anniversary box sell?
This is pretty much spot on. The older acts, minus a few exceptions, like AC/DC and The Stones, are not the draws they once were. Music in general is changing, and how money is generated in the music industry has changed as well.

I fear that it would indeed be the case that if something like a Randy DVD was released, it would make a pretty negligible ripple in the proverbial waters. Companies will look at the bottom line, and if there's not a profit to be made, projects like this don't move ahead. It's the simple economics of the whole thing, as has been mentioned many times before. Couple this with the fact that there's always some sort of snag with getting anything Randy released, and you have a project that has a next to zero chance of getting released to the public. Sad, but that's the reality.

That box set looks to have been an abysmal failure in terms of sales. While it's great that we got a DVD with this set that featured snippets of Randy, they basically shot themselves in the foot not releasing the DVD separately. Of course, the idea was to shill an expensive box set so this was the only way Randy fans could get this footage. It flopped sales-wise, though, and the fallback on this was that they could say, "Well, we DID give you some Randy footage..."., so they didn't lie. They just put the set out of the reach of most fans, who already had they albums, could give two shits less about the vinyl, and didn't want a replica Ozzy cross.

When it flopped, Sharon, always one to wring every last cent out of something and hedge her bets, released the Randy footage on the latest Ozzy DVD compilation recently. Say what you will about her, but she's shrewd with business, and saw and opportunity to attempt to turn the most coveted part of a poor-selling box set into a moderate/potentially high selling DVD package. She's certainly not stupid.

I surmise that any further footage or Randy materials the O's may or may not have would be have to be packaged with some other Ozzy material. Like it or not, Ozzy is the drawing card for fans and sales, and anything Randy would have to be rolled into some Ozzy material. That's the only way it will sell, sadly.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:18 pm
by friday
dvd and cds are too expensive for what they are . most humans get their music off the net , I wonder how the shops keep their doors open.

Im listening to DOAM right now , I doubt some kid would want to hear this stuff and pretty sure kids arent gonna fork over money for 1980s metal or new cds and dvds

OZZY music has been shite for quite a while now , sharons got him on the road to milk his early career

As good as RR was , hes just not interesting to the market

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:49 pm
by rhoads56
Im just going to put this put this out there:

If ANYONE finds footage, and money is needed to get it off the original owners, contact me. I don't care how much. If its worth it, it is worth it. From there, i'll do whatever it takes to get it into peoples hands.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:17 pm
by dannyahansen
rhoads56 wrote:Im just going to put this put this out there:

If ANYONE finds footage, and money is needed to get it off the original owners, contact me. I don't care how much. If its worth it, it is worth it. From there, i'll do whatever it takes to get it into peoples hands.
All I'll say is that is very kind of you good sir.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:07 pm
by orion_damage
rhoads56 wrote:Im just going to put this put this out there:

If ANYONE finds footage, and money is needed to get it off the original owners, contact me. I don't care how much. If its worth it, it is worth it. From there, i'll do whatever it takes to get it into peoples hands.
That's an incredible offer and much appreciated. To my knowledge, this is the only RR site with any traffic so hopefully someone will come along and see this.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:49 am
by Astral Plane
rhoads56 wrote:Im just going to put this put this out there:

If ANYONE finds footage, and money is needed to get it off the original owners, contact me. I don't care how much. If its worth it, it is worth it. From there, i'll do whatever it takes to get it into peoples hands.
I'm sure someone here must know someone.. who knows someone..... who knows someone that could get in touch with the filmer of Rosemont Horizon. That show if it exists in its entirety would be fabulous, especially nice and clean, and glitch free!

And really, Beaumont Texas was most likely filmed, if someone could film that soundcheck like that, they most likely got at least some of that gig as well. Id bet anything It wasn't just soundcheck. Collectors are not huge fans like us. Rare video, and audio exist of many many bands that we will probably never get to see or hear.

Re: Roady Shot Diary Concert!..... I need advice

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:24 am
by LongRhoadsAhead
Astral Plane wrote:
rhoads56 wrote:Im just going to put this put this out there:

If ANYONE finds footage, and money is needed to get it off the original owners, contact me. I don't care how much. If its worth it, it is worth it. From there, i'll do whatever it takes to get it into peoples hands.
I'm sure someone here must know someone.. who knows someone..... who knows someone that could get in touch with the filmer of Rosemont Horizon. That show if it exists in its entirety would be fabulous, especially nice and clean, and glitch free!

And really, Beaumont Texas was most likely filmed, if someone could film that soundcheck like that, they most likely got at least some of that gig as well. Id bet anything It wasn't just soundcheck. Collectors are not huge fans like us. Rare video, and audio exist of many many bands that we will probably never get to see or hear.
I have always had that thought as well. I wish someone could get in contact with the Beaumont guy and the Rosemont guy.