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its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:39 am
by fortress
I needed to say it.. Only listened to 2 songs and its just....... its just awesome!!! So much better than tribute.. Guitar tone alot better than on tribute

listeming to MR crowley, alot of little thing here and there, much better than tribute

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:02 am
by fortress
children of the grave.. never heard that beginning of his solo.... but maybe i did miss a bootleg where i was playing it like this

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:05 pm
by xk319
Yep, when you think about it, there were so many shows many of us have never heard. So many things that we've never heard. And honestly, no one knows what exists as far as soundboard recorded shows. (even if just for band review)

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:24 pm
by halo8th
LOVE this show......although i will say this : I still like the KBFH show best.

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:59 am
by The Flying Dutchman
halo8th wrote:LOVE this show......although i will say this : I still like the KBFH show best.
Me too like the KBFH show and the Cleveland (radio broadcast) better.
Why? Well that's because I like the guitarsounds there better. (more bite and fury) Also those two monumental boots have a more 'live' feeling to me. It sounds more raw and real to me. And also I rather hear one full show instead of a live compilation of a few different shows.

BUT... don't get me wrong I really like the new live cd! Listening to it all the time right now. But yesterday night I threw in the KBFH show in my car's cd player, that mid 'plexi' cutting "I don't know" riff started and I realized this is it! 8)
No recording tops that so far, not even the new live cd. (imo)

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:21 pm
by blues_n_cues
the acoustic outtake from revelation is the best piece of music ever.... IMHO.
now i have new guitar lessons for a month. :shock:

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:36 pm
by Shockwave
Who keeps deleting my post????? This is like the 5th time this week it has happened...

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:40 pm
by fortress
where is the KBFH show you are talking?? what show it is? is it in the audio sectioN?

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:59 am
by AceVader
fortress wrote:where is the KBFH show you are talking?? what show it is? is it in the audio sectioN?
Montreal. I dont remember if its here, it very likely is. Its also streaming for free on Wolfgang's Vault.

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:48 am
by The Flying Dutchman
fortress wrote:where is the KBFH show you are talking?? what show it is? is it in the audio sectioN?
Here you go: 7/28/81Montreal, Canada ..Full Show
8)

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:12 am
by Cpt Matt Sparrow
I have had 5 good listens so far and I love it. The band (and especially Randy) on the 'new' recording seem much looser and fun loving in these versions of the songs. There are a few songs that this doesn't work for me, but overall I love the fills Randy plays and also the general rapport and freedom the band have!

Matt

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:26 pm
by windingrhoads
Well I've listened to it 3 or 4 times all the way through, and the one thing I pick up when listening through headphones is the drums seem off somehow. I would venture to say that I would not be shocked if we found out that the drum track is not Tommy A, but redone by someone else. I have been a drummer for over 20 years and Tommy is one of my all time favs, I have listened to his playing for a very long time. Some of the sections of passes and characteristics that Tommy puts into the tunes were simply not there in my opinion. To my ears it almost sounded like someone else trying to copy what he did, but was not able to do it completely, and let too much of their own style come out in some of those passes during recording. The biggest thing for me was during Revelation Mother Earth, there is some double kick accents throughout some of the sections that Tommy simply didn't do. At least not on the recordings that I have or have heard. Now, it's either someone else or this is a show that was recorded soon after Tommy joined Ozzy's band and was still finding his way in the set. Don't know, but I would be curious to see what the rest of you think about this.

Also, this doesn't sound like a complete show to me, it really sounds like a mix match of various shows. If you allow yourself to really listen to the performances, it seems like they don't all come from the same show, it's like the matched up the drums, vocals and guitar from different shows and pasted them together to create one performance. The audience is what really throws me off because it is not real, or original for that matter. Why do they do this? This won't be purchased by the masses, but the box is purchased from the die hards, so why not leave the original show alone, warts and all? I'd be much happier with that than something that was put together by someone who feels they can determine what I should hear and how I would want it to sound. Bullshit.

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:17 pm
by whoopiecat
Well, I wound up sending Mr. Aldridge an email which included a link to this thread. I hope you don't mind, windingrhoads, but I quoted part of your post in the email.
I figured, this has been a common question both here and at TK for the past week, so why not try to get an answer from the source itself?
If and when I hear back from Tommy, I will certainly share here.

~T.

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:09 pm
by windingrhoads
whoopiecat wrote:Well, I wound up sending Mr. Aldridge an email which included a link to this thread. I hope you don't mind, windingrhoads, but I quoted part of your post in the email.
I figured, this has been a common question both here and at TK for the past week, so why not try to get an answer from the source itself?
If and when I hear back from Tommy, I will certainly share here.

~T.
Wow, thanks so much I really appreciate that. I hope he sends a reply. I hope I'm wrong as I would hate to hear that it's not him, that would ruin it for me. I'm hoping it's actually a very early show that they archived and forgot about and Tommy was just finding his place in the set.

Re: its so much better than TRIBUTE!!!

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:33 pm
by AndrewT1976
Randy's performance on Crazy Train is out of this world. I think it's the greatest performance I've ever heard from him. The whole new live album is great, but Crazy Train...my goodness!!!!