Autographed Blizzard - Randy

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Rich, On a first look i would have to say these are fakes. I cannot see any tell tail signs of Randys signature. Ozzy's is a bit more like his but if Randy's is fake i'd be betting that Ozzy's is the same. I hope you didn't pay alot for these. Some people on ebay are scamming punters on a daily basis. It's purely and simply day light robbery and they are allowed to carry on doing it. I know you got these from a different internet site. But i would do your best to try and get compensated. I can guarantee if they have sold these as genuine signatures i can guarantee they'll be selling more fake items. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, 'it sucks mate, i've been there'.

[hansolo]

I'm thinking fake but I have seen worse fakes. The different pens used back then. Did Ozzy use a silver pen? Were they around then or it could be signed at different times? It could be a real Ozzy and fake Randy. Ozzy's looks too neat for Ozzy. The cross in Randy's name is funny. Also, not impossible to get one signed but Diary was out for only 4 months before Randy's death...

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Joe/Han don't be fooled by the silver pen story ?. Everyone who talks about signatures signed with them ?. The 'silver sharpie' was available later but i have signatures from the early 80's in silver paint pens. These wrote in silver ink and they took forever to dry. Alot of signatures are dismissed when signed with this type and are looked at as being signed with a 'sharpie'. The Ozzy signature from the early 80's has very much pronounced 'ZZ' this one here is more like oSSy. His signature is very sloppy these days and the market has been flooded with signed autobiography books. So his signature is now very common. As you know you picked up that copy of Blizzard for a very cheap price.

[hansolo]

I don't know what to think, because I am no expert by any means. And thanks a million for the autographed BOO, BTW. I'm not sure what your point is here, idol. I think they are fake, albeit close. I didn't think they were real, but the Randy cross was funny....

[GUITARIDOL5682]

That was a little education in silver pens and i read you loud and clear. You said that the Ozzy may have been signed at a later date. Which sometimes happens but then for someone to add a fake RR signature. It does happen but if it was signed to sell on ?. What do you mean by Randy's cross ?. How he's underlined the signature ?.

[hansolo]

Okay, silver pens were around that time. I didn't quite understand the first time I read it. Yep, the underlining. I thought it went well with the Diary theme. Once again I say nay but I am not an expert. I guess if one is forged, the other one would be too.

[oth]

Randy's is a total fake.
Refer to the the in depth thread.

[Rich404]

Rich, On a first look i would have to say these are fakes. I cannot see any tell tail signs of Randys signature. Ozzy's is a bit more like his but if Randy's is fake i'd be betting that Ozzy's is the same. I hope you didn't pay alot for these. Some people on ebay are scamming punters on a daily basis. It's purely and simply day light robbery and they are allowed to carry on doing it. I know you got these from a different internet site. But i would do your best to try and get compensated. I can guarantee if they have sold these as genuine signatures i can guarantee they'll be selling more fake items. Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, 'it sucks mate, i've been there'.

Hi guitarIdol,

Thank you for your feedback! I do appreciate you checking this out. I bought this album 6 years ago and I did paid hundreds for it because it came with a COA. To find out that it may be fake is pretty tough news but not the end of the world. What do you think I should do about this?

Can you give me a few examples of real Randy/Ozzy signatures so that I can have a true reference point of their actual signatures. This way I can either look into further signature analysis or just go after the seller (if he's even around) with true signatures as a reference point.

Thank you in advance.

-Rich.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

Rich,
You could get this officialy certified but i could save you the effort and expenses and tell you it's a fake. When you've seen alot of RR signatures, you can tell a fake easily. So i would go about trying to get your money back. As far as a COA they are not worth the paper they are printed on. Who ever sold these to you should of done the research that i've done. This would of been recognised as a fake from any genuine dealer in autographs. This link here will show you several genuine Rhoads signatures and you can see the difference straight away.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=726&start=180

[dasboot]

A COA is usually a sure sign that it is a fake.

[GUITARIDOL5682]

A COA is usually a sure sign that it is a fake.

Not with the genuine autograph dealers. They have the providence of the item dated and authenticated. One site which comes to mind is the UACC Universal Autograph Collectors Club. I have had these recommended to me from collectors and they always provide a COA with every item purchased. Like i mentioned, anyone can print one up and say any old crap to convince the buyer. If your not sure about any signatures, don't buy them.

[Rich404]

Rich,
You could get this officialy certified but i could save you the effort and expenses and tell you it's a fake. When you've seen alot of RR signatures, you can tell a fake easily. So i would go about trying to get your money back. As far as a COA they are not worth the paper they are printed on. Who ever sold these to you should of done the research that i've done. This would of been recognised as a fake from any genuine dealer in autographs. This link here will show you several genuine Rhoads signatures and you can see the difference straight away.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=726&start=180

Hi Guitaridol,

Thank you so much for this info. I am going to take your word for it and try to get my money back rather than spend more to get to your conclusion.

Thanks again for all your help!

Regards,

-Rich.

[oth]

A COA is usually a sure sign that it is a fake.

Not with the genuine autograph dealers. They have the providence of the item dated and authenticated. One site which comes to mind is the UACC Universal Autograph Collectors Club. I have had these recommended to me from collectors and they always provide a COA with every item purchased. Like i mentioned, anyone can print one up and say any old crap to convince the buyer. If your not sure about any signatures, don't buy them.

According to this ebay seller this aint true.So I did a google search on psa/dna and they indeed are a scam-I was totally surprised but shouldnt have been.So i did a uacc search and pretty lame also.Then i remember you mentioning in a thread a name of guy and so i checked out the old threads and found roger epperson and this guy,GI,is a fraud also.The whole authenticating industry is a farce.There are no rules or facts.Anybody can call themselves a genuine autograph business or association.Its a joke.Like a fraternity of loser wannabe's-as bad as palm readers.

[hansolo]

Isn't that F'ed up? A COA is a sign of bullsh%t? But the song remains the same...

P.S. - Idol rules!

[axeman_12656]

Sad, but a lot of authentic autographed are deemed "fake" and a lot of fake ones are deemed "legit"

But when i see a Randy or an ozzy i seem to get an instict within 2 seconds on or if its real or not.

Did anyone see the JIMI HENDRIX Poem on the tv show Pawn Stars a year or so ago? The authenticator said it was a fake... but in my heart i think it was real. As does the owner. He had all the backstory and previous owners and information.

No one signs their name the same every single time.