Do you think more Randy Rhoads footage exists?

[estang74]

Fish,
(cocaine in Andrew's blood stream, aiming for his wife with the plane)

E

everyone knew about that since the start, what is coming out that is news is what the Ardens did to this guy, where his wife and RR's guitar tech are today and why everyone was silent.

Gabriel,

Can you elaborate a little more on the Arden thing? If not, I totally understand. I thought RR guitar tech is going to be in the documentary?

E

[estang74]

What I still have a hard time understanding, is why Don Airey, although I know how broken up he has been about Randy, and others there that day, and having contact with Randy, have not just come out and boldly told the truth?

The truth about what?

If you meant the truth about existing footage and audio it's a bit sensitive.
The reason why they keep it quiet is (sadly) Mrs. Rhoads....... (if you like it or not)
After some 'experiences' with the Osbournes she didn't want people making any $$$$ out of Randy anymore....... (especially not the Osbournes, I guess...) So those who were there, Tommy, Rudy & the Osbournes keep stuff quiet because they know it will put pressure on Mrs. Rhoads if people know about stuff and find out the real reason why it's not released.

Dutch,

Quick Question, So I understand and respect Mrs. Rhoads decision not to have certain people make money off her son's legacy. My question is, the deals with the marshall amp and the figurine just goes directly to them then and that's why she ok it? Also, since Ozzy released some of after hours(or all of it, don't remember) on one of the re issues then why couldn't they release the footage?

Thanks in Advance,

E
The Osbournes would have released already a lot of stuff if Mrs. Rhoads was oke with it. I know you are not gonna believe this but it's (sadly) the truth though. Many people did ask Mrs Rhoads about existing footage (at memorials etc), again and again she clearly showed that she didn't like to talk about this. She just didn't answer, changed subject or just walked away....... (you live around there, so you can check for yourself )
The Osbournes respect her wishes, long ago Sharon told (you can ask Rhoads56 here, he talked with Sharon about this) that they were sitting on TONS of stuff they couldn't use and that we had to wait for the change of the guard..... Now if that PRO-blizzard footage comes out while she is still with us then it's really a miracle.
The Osbournes are more than willing to release Randy stuff, unfortunately for us fans, they don't do that out of respect for Mrs. Rhoads. It's a very tragic situation and I think it's hard to blame anyone, if someone it's the Osbournes about some mistakes they made in the past that caused this situation....., and I'm sure they regret some things now.
It's not hard to understand those who are involved (Rudy, Tommy etc) rather don't talk about existing material because of above. So here you got your answer.......

Time will tell if I was right about this, again some things I told here you can verify for yourself.

[The Flying Dutchman]

Dutch,

Quick Question, So I understand and respect Mrs. Rhoads decision not to have certain people make money off her son's legacy. My question is, the deals with the marshall amp and the figurine just goes directly to them then and that's why she ok it? Also, since Ozzy released some of after hours(or all of it, don't remember) on one of the re issues then why couldn't they release the footage?

Thanks in Advance,

It's not that she wants nothing at all to be released, but she wants to keep strict control about this. Yes she is probably oke with the signature Marshall amp and the figurine. But it's no secret she said NO to lots of other people who wanted to use Randy's name for other things.

The Osbournes never released After Hours officially, they used some fragments of it for the the Crazy Train clip, some for the "Don't blame me" video and some of it as a bonus for the "Down to earth" cd.
But it is never officially released in it's entire. Isn't it odd that this never happened if it really was the 'only' footage the Osbournes have? With my 'theory' all pieces fall together and it (at least to me) explains the whole situation about the current Randy legacy really well.

btw someone can maybe ask Bob Daisley in the Q&A topic if it's true that Mrs Rhoads had sued the Osbournes for years to get some money. (as Bob said earlier in one of his interviews, I don't think he made that up....)

[Gabriel Raphael]

i agree and believe you man, its why i said MONEY was behind some people's intentions instead of sincere appreciation for RR's contribution.

[RRfish]

You cheeky Dutchman,no disrespect intended, but yes time will prove you to be wrong! But we all have to admit we have been wrong at times, some not so much ! Ardens!

[The Flying Dutchman]

You cheeky Dutchman,no disrespect intended, but yes time will prove you to be wrong! But we all have to admit we have been wrong at times, some not so much ! Ardens!

No problem Fish! It would be pretty borring if we all think the same here!
When "the change of the guard" is there, we can tell soon after that if I was right or wrong.
(btw to me that pro-footage is not worth a single human life, just to make sure people don't take this wrong.... what really challenge me is that people say "nothing was filmed" or "there is no footage", I want to prove they are wrong. )

[Shockwave]

I am not sure what to think anymore. There is footage out there (more than the blizzard pro shot and two diary shows). I would say there is tons and tons of backstage and on the road video stuff that is understandably very private to the osbournes. You can tell how much Randy meant to Sharon during the Japanese documentary when she starts crying when talking about it. Man that had me breaking down almost. You can just tell how much he was loved by them. I think over the years Ozzy has just become so big that people think he does not really care anymore but the fact is he always has and will.

I just hope he sits in his house every once in awhile with Sharon and watches all his old videos. It must be very freaky to watch stuff(like that birthday celebration) like that with Randy in it.

[whoopiecat]

I recall Peter saying with the exception of Kevin, everyone Randy played with has been filmed for the doc.
I will go ahead and assume that means Ozzy as well. I do wonder, with Wreckage Of My Past in the works, how much he will contribute to the Dakota film, and how much he will include for his own. As I understand it the Ozzy doc will be about Ozzy the person, as opposed to Oz, the Prince of Darkness. I would venture to guess Randy will be spoken of. It was only a few years they spent together, but as stated above, Randy's death is something Ozzy will always carry with him.
I do wonder what the stance is on BOO Band material being cleared for Peter's film, again assuming what may be authorized will be the '02 remasters. Unfortunate, but better than nothing at all.

T.

[Shockwave]

I recall Peter saying with the exception of Kevin, everyone Randy played with has been filmed for the doc.
I will go ahead and assume that means Ozzy as well. I do wonder, with Wreckage Of My Past in the works, how much he will contribute to the Dakota film, and how much he will include for his own. As I understand it the Ozzy doc will be about Ozzy the person, as opposed to Oz, the Prince of Darkness. I would venture to guess Randy will be spoken of. It was only a few years they spent together, but as stated above, Randy's death is something Ozzy will always carry with him.
I do wonder what the stance is on BOO Band material being cleared for Peter's film, again assuming what may be authorized will be the '02 remasters. Unfortunate, but better than nothing at all.

T.

I think with Ozzy's new documentary coming out we will see whatever he has of Randy. He is probably holding out for his own documentary so probably would not share much with Peter's, it would only make sense.

Would Ozzy want Peter to release a pro shot concert with Randy Rhoads and make mediocre money? Or would Ozzy release something with the name Ozzy on it to appeal to the masses of people to make a ton more money(i am not saying he is in it for the money, the footage will make it to more people in Ozzy's doc rather than Randy's)

[Gabriel Raphael]

Peace

Lets just agree that Ozzy's documentary will be about Ozzy's life, the whole truth and nothing but the best of Ozzy, honestly, we all noticed that the best recordings of RR had terrible vocals and where dropped for the same reasons.

[The Flying Dutchman]

Would Ozzy want Peter to release a pro shot concert with Randy Rhoads and make mediocre money? Or would Ozzy release something with the name Ozzy on it to appeal to the masses of people to make a ton more money(i am not saying he is in it for the money, the footage will make it to more people in Ozzy's doc rather than Randy's)

To me it's a bit hard to believe they would give that Pro-blizzard show away to Peter without having any control or whatever.

btw was Ozzy interviewed for the doc?

[Gabriel Raphael]

you mean Peter's doc., and Peter's doc has the Rhoads family, wonder if they will appear in Ozzys Doc.

[The Flying Dutchman]

you mean Peter's doc

Yes, Peter's doc.
I never heard him say specifically that he interviewed Ozzy as he did with most other people...... So I was wondering.

[Gabriel Raphael]

you mean Peter's doc

Yes, Peter's doc.
I never heard him say specifically that he interviewed Ozzy as he did with most other people...... So I was wondering.

No he does not mention this and you are correct.

It is a known fact that Ozzy is legally advised to not go on camera with out making sure certain questions are not asked or he will be legally liable.

What do you think about Peter's film so far, do you think Kevin Dubrow was right, that it did not present Randy but more of the left overs RR left in the dust from his era who wanted a piece of his arse like they did with Eddie while he rose to fame, who at the time where in denial they copied him, i doubt that was the case with RR, he even looked cool.

To be brutally honest how i see it, Peter's film is by a guitarists for guitarists so i look forward to seen it as a guitarists myself, but i doubt i will ever see a film about RR like the ones on Hendrix recently, where they finally expose corruption, scandals, girls behind the scenes, more extortion and all., they never do while the bad guys are alive.

I re edited this post, was longer.

[Phineas J]

I agree that it seems odd for the Osbournes to allow the Blizzard concert to be put out, mostly because all of Oz's stuff is usually highly polished and this would be a kind of "warts and all" showing. Unless he goes in and "re-does" his vocals.

Plus, I dont see the Osbournes giving away the best Randy stuff when they have apparently been waiting for the "changing of the guard" for so long. If this is true about the Blizzard show, you can bet your a$$ that the Osbournes have more gems in the vault waiting to come out.

They (Osbournes) have to realize that anything they put out with Randy will out sell anything they have ever put out in the way of dvds. Sharon is a sly fox. Don't think for a minute that they would give away this stuff without more stuff chilling on ice.