Do you think more Randy Rhoads pro audio exists? Yes!!!

[blues_n_cues]

Releasing 'jam tapes' would be an all-time low, in my opinion.
Respect the artist's wishes - that is what Mrs. Rhoads is trying to do.

I should add, note in the Churko interview just who 'possesses' the tapes.... the record company. Not Ozzy and Sharon.

if they are listen-worthy yes. just jam tapes maybe no.
knowing Sharon Osbourne- she"possesses" everything & has controlling rights. Remember- after 'crazy train" was a hit & Ozzy left Jet records she pulled all the strings. epic & sony were just basically distribution deals.

[shred1]

Never mind.

[Stiltzkin]

Sharon couldn't do shit & I'm sure Mrs. Dee would approve.

Well, if it's remotely Ozzy related, Sharon in her role as his manager can
do whatever she wants!

[shred1]

You guys are underestimating the authority of the record company here.
If Ozzy left Sony tomorrow, his catalog does not go with him. Fact.

He does not possess the masters to his recordings. Fact. The Churko interview bears this out.

I am not a fan of Sharon at all. Having said that, the concept that she can do whatever she wants is becoming urban myth. Seriously.

No one has ever asked where the idea for the 'rebuilt' re-issues came from.... was it Sharon's idea, or did they 'owe' Sony a re-issue package of some sort?
We don't know.

I will say it again, from what I have read and researched, Randy would NOT want 'rehearsal' tapes released, and the sense of entitlement from some fans is, in my opinion, kind of disrespectful to the artist that everyone claims to love.

[rokket]

Ozzy talked about the reissue's in an interview and said.....

Ozzy told The Pulse of Radio he was against the idea of replacing the original tracks when he found out about it. “Believe me, it wasn’t my doing,” he said. “I mean, I didn’t know that was being done, ’cause Sharon was fighting all the legal things that were going down at the time. I said, ‘What did you do that for?’ And she said, ‘The only way I could stop everything was if it went to that level.’ And I said, ‘You know what, whatever the circumstances were, I want the original thing back.’ I mean, I wouldn’t have done that.”

As for what Randy may have wanted back in the 80's, it's a hell of a stretch to say if he was still alive he'd have the same opinion now....!!

Ultimately, we don't know.

[blues_n_cues]

Ozzy talked about the reissue's in an interview and said.....

Ozzy told The Pulse of Radio he was against the idea of replacing the original tracks when he found out about it. “Believe me, it wasn’t my doing,” he said. “I mean, I didn’t know that was being done, ’cause Sharon was fighting all the legal things that were going down at the time. I said, ‘What did you do that for?’ And she said, ‘The only way I could stop everything was if it went to that level.’ And I said, ‘You know what, whatever the circumstances were, I want the original thing back.’ I mean, I wouldn’t have done that.”

As for what Randy may have wanted back in the 80's, it's a hell of a stretch to say if he was still alive he'd have the same opinion now....!!

Ultimately, we don't know.

same ol' 'i DIDN'T DO IT" BS. same ol' 30 year old speculating. yes there is more but who has it-who knows.
if you watch the 9 minute Beaumont soundcheck there's a cassette player right there @ the board. so who is to say if that's filler music or taping the shows for reference. on the DOAM tour knowing that a live album was in the contract I'm sure they recorded everything. will we ever hear it? who knows- there's enough floating around to keep me happy.


I WAS AROUND IN 1981-'82 & ALL THIS INTERNET STUFF IS GOLD COMPARED TO BACK THEN.

[shred1]

Yes, if Randy were alive today, lots of things would be different. The value of whatever 'everyone' is hanging onto would drop like a stone, wouldn't it?

Speak Of The Devil was a contractual obligation release, I believe that Sony may have approached the O's in regards to the re-issues in a similar fashion. You owe us a release by X date.

Further, maybe, just maybe, its Sony holding out on official future releases, due to all the legal snags.

[Paul Wolfe]

I will say it again, from what I have read and researched, Randy would NOT want 'rehearsal' tapes released, and the sense of entitlement from some fans is, in my opinion, kind of disrespectful to the artist that everyone claims to love.

Keep in mind that what you've 'read and researched' regarding what Randy would want is what Randy would have wanted as a 25-year-old kid. Had he lived, he very well may have changed his mind.

He loved teaching just as much as he loved performing. If he got to the point where he realized how much guitar players could learn by hearing the jamming and song building process, I believe he'd have been all for it. LOTS of box sets release demos, so the record company would be for it as well.

All we know is what his mom has told us about his wishes. He has been quoted as saying he wished the Quiet Riot records were released in the States, but his mom said no.

I don't think it's disrespectful to want to hear the tapes of rehearsals and jamming. On the contrary, we fans love his playing so much we want to hear everything that will help us get to know Randy the musician better. At least that is why I'd like to hear it.

[shred1]

How many versions of Believer do you folks need?

Picasso wanted you to enjoy his art. He didn't invite you into the studio during its creation.

If Randy was alive, we wouldn't be licking our lips over lo-fi rehearsal tapes.

Maybe you want to hear everything - fair enough, but at the time he was alive he wasn't offering you that. Now he is gone, should we disregard his wishes?

[Tito]

i agree with paul on this..had randy matured into an older man i think his earlier thoughts would have relaxed alot...you live and you learn so i think he would have changed his mind eventually.

[Geo Sav]

No one is gonna force you to buy another live show if it were to be released. Don't buy it if you don't want. I myself would love to hear more shows. I thought the last cd was better than Tribute. I say release some more stuff. I could listen to believer a bunch more times. Keep the shows coming.

[Paul Wolfe]

How many versions of Believer do you folks need?

Picasso wanted you to enjoy his art. He didn't invite you into the studio during its creation.

If Randy was alive, we wouldn't be licking our lips over lo-fi rehearsal tapes.

Maybe you want to hear everything - fair enough, but at the time he was alive he wasn't offering you that. Now he is gone, should we disregard his wishes?

The point is that you don't know what Randy's wishes were. You know what his mom said his wishes were. I've also read quotes attributed to Mrs. Rhoads that said Randy wouldn't want the QR records released, yet Randy himself is quoted as saying he did... so who do you listen to? Randy's mom knew him better than me, so I trust her opinion.

Picasso didn't care who enjoyed his art... he painted because he loved to paint. Personally I don't think he was good at it, but it would still be interesting to visit him in his studio to understand where he is coming from.

My point with Randy rehearsal stuff is to understand where he was coming from. Shred, you don't want to hear them, fine. But you should probably consider that some of us do and we don't demand anything or feel we are entitled... when you post negativity, things get nasty here. Please post your opinion and let it be. Continuing usually leads to fighting.

As mom used to say, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

[rokket]

Well said Paul.

[rokket]

With all due respect to Mrs. Rhoads, neither her nor the Osbourne's can really play the "Randy wouldn't want this released" card any longer. Look at the quality, sound and vision, of the "new" footage included in the box set. Below average at best.

[No1UNo]

You know, I think some of the best live stuff is here on this site...mostly complete shows that aren't touched up at all. I love Tribute, but wish Ozzy released it without re-doing his vocals and without substituting the 7.28.81 Montreal guitar solo. I love the 7.28.81 Montreal show and wish that show as released in its entirety without any cutting and pasting. I feel the same about the Ozzy Live CD - I would've preferred an entire concert as is instead of various tracks from different shows. Imagine the original Tribute or the Montreal show with the production and mixing that Ozzy Live received?

I would've bought the 30th anniversary box set if Southampton or another U.S. '81 complete and original show was included with the Blizzard disc and an entire untouched live show from the U.S. '82 tour was included with the Diary show. I feel fortunate to receive what we did, but I just would've done things differently had I executive produced the thing.