hansolo wrote:
Check out Rainbow live (w/Dio) Sixteenth Century Greensleeves, Man on the silver mountain, etc. Or take Smoke on the water, Richie used 5th chords without the bass root. I don't know has the A pedal with 5th chords with no root.
Well I do need to check out more Rainbow some time, whenever I think of them I just hear "since you've been gone!" Most of the Rainbow I've heard is post-Dio. I understand that Dio brought a a darker tone to the band's song writing? Could that also have been an influence on Randy? I do remember that Randy and Bob loved Dio's debut with Sabbath. Different band mind
I see your point about the inverted chords, but surely that's obvious, I mean Randy could have tripped over that himself or heard it any number of places?
Personally I've never thought any player had a noticeable influence, a subtle and profound one perhaps, but not noticeable. RR was just to damn clever at assimilating what he learned into his own musical dialect. You have to really look for the clues.
Me and Randy have the same hobbies, and we're the same size. I'm like 5"7 or 5"8. I also like Chinese food, and I can play guitar, and bass. God man. If he were alive today, we'd probably be hanging out, or jamming somewhere.
Ritchie Blackmore was asked in an issue of 'Kerrang' (UK rock magazine) from late 1982 about other
guitarists....he mentioned one who he thought was good...Randy Rhoads.
TimRR wrote:Ritchie Blackmore was asked in an issue of 'Kerrang' (UK rock magazine) from late 1982 about other
guitarists....he mentioned one who he thought was good...Randy Rhoads.
"I understand that Dio brought a a darker tone to the band's song writing?"
A very cool thing for Blackmore to say. I am a Richie fan too. Uhmm, when Rainbow formed Ronnie James was the original singer. Richie left Deep Purple for becoming "too fancy". Bob Daisley was a bass player in Rainbow (77-78) and Don Airey was a Keyboard player as well. The live album I referred to had a castle on the front of the album. I think it was called Rainbow On Stage! Cozy Powell on percussion, Jimmy Bain bass and Tony Carey on Keys.
The original Rainbow lineup was incredible... Stargazer and Long Live Rock and Roll were must learn songs when I started playing guitar... After Dio left, I wasn't quite so thrilled with them, although Graham Bonnet was a great vocalist in his own right.
I never liked any Rainbow studio albums, yeah a song here and there. Stone cold and Street of dreams, I suppose were good studio songs but man, when I heard "On stage" I was a fan. I was just a young pup in '81 playing smoke on the water with one string (high E) when I heard either I don't know or Crazy train and was blown away. I never got over it.
There was a dude in my school that in tenth grade said, hey you wanna take guitar lessons from me? I knew the guy since 7th grade and was like, "yeah okay, I'm pretty good, I can learn on my own." We'll friends started taking lessons and I started hanging out with a few people (guitar players) who took lessons from him and I was used to C chords and acoustic guitar sounds. Then I heard a distorted guitar through an amp playing guitar to an album (lp) or alone. It sounded like the album! He could play the Randy SS solo from King Biscuit. Well this dude was incredible, I so regret not taking lessons from him to this day (I was poor at the time (enter violins)). Recently he resurfaced on Facebook, HUGE jazz fan but when you understand the language of music like this guy does, rock just don't do it for ya! That's why I like me some Jazz but rock does it for me. What was the question?
Personally rainbow is right up there with rhoads qr and OZZY for me. I think the Dio stuff was great but all was cool. Randy did say he liked Ritchie, idk about rainbow though but I guess suicide solution and I don't know do have the perfect 4th thing that Ritchie loved to use
Paul Wolfe wrote:
This was written in '77 or '78, so I'm guessing Randy was impressed with Blow by Blow and Wired. Interesting, because I don't recall anyone mentioning Beck as an influence of his... Kelly Garni told me about obscure favorites of Randy's like Savage Grace, and I've heard of the usual influences like Grosvenor, Nelson, Buxton, Schenker, Van Halen... I've even heard that Randy could play DiMeola note for note, but I don't recall any reference to Beck other than this.
I've heard about Beck a couple of times before (in interviews perhaps), the only real reference I can think of is a music book;
Another guitarist who influenced Rhoads was Jeff Beck. Rhoads admired the way Beck expressed himself using the guitar; while playing even a single note he sounded great. Rhoads actually listened to a wide range of music and was getting more and more interested in the jazz guitar style. Beck's jazz-rock fusion must have been like a porthole into a world with richer harmonies and greater expression, both of which Rhoads was seeking throughout his career.
Rosenbaum, Aaron (2002) Ozzy Osbourne, The Randy Rhoads Years, Cherry Lane
There is no reference for this assertion in the book, but as I say I'm certain I've heard such things from other sources. The author also makes note of Randy enjoying Jazz artists such as Earl Klugh and Jean Luc Ponty, stating that Randy was not so much into heavy fusion but enjoyed melodic music. This would indirectly offer some explanation to a fascination with Beck. The book also draws attention to the Jazz harmonies in S.A.T.O
To be honest I still find some of Randy's other supposed influences more surprising. I think the influence of Schenker is slightly overstated, and I personally see very little link to Blackmore. And while QR were undoubtedly 'copying' VH in some ways I don't really consider EVH an influence.
Rob
Hi Rob,
I had brief email contact with Bob several years back and once asked him to compare Randy/Ritchie. His response was:"Musically, both very dedicated and tenacious. In some ways, they had similar influences-they both liked Jimi Hendrix and I know Randy liked Ritchie's playing"
Cheers
That's true George. There were a bunch of line-ups! Jimmy Bain and Bob Daisley were bassists in the Dio years. As was Tony Carey and Don Airey (Airey also played on some Sabbath w/Ozzy) were on the keys. All great players. Then came the different singers...
RRFAN123456789 wrote:Me and Randy have the same hobbies, and we're the same size. I'm like 5"7 or 5"8. I also like Chinese food, and I can play guitar, and bass. God man. If he were alive today, we'd probably be hanging out, or jamming somewhere.
Are you a blonde with blue eyes? (Like it matters! lol I'm just curious hehe)
That's cool. I could probably hang with y'all too, considering I'm 5"4 and I play electric/acoustic guitar, and I do like Chinese food. There's this one Chinese restaurant not far from my house that has some really good Chinese food.
hansolo wrote:That's true George. There were a bunch of line-ups! Jimmy Bain and Bob Daisley were bassists in the Dio years. As was Tony Carey and Don Airey (Airey also played on some Sabbath w/Ozzy) were on the keys. All great players. Then came the different singers...
I think that they were all good players, admittedly.
