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axeman_12656 wrote:A very valued member of this board, a good friend of mine, told me Bob asked for a rediculas amount of money for them. NOT royalties, a rediculas amount of money for the tapes. At that point it was just dropped.
bwahahaha, nice.cableguyxx wrote:maybe he asked for 50K?
50K X 2 lolcableguyxx wrote:maybe he asked for 50K?
I believe he asked for royalties and for the tapes to be released in their uncut state so that everyone would know exactly who did what... Think the latter would worry the Osbournes far more than any sum of money.axeman_12656 wrote:Just making conversation.sytharnia wrote:this is one of the best trolling I have seen here....well done axeman
But I do stand by my opinion.... My opinion is they (The O's and Bob) are both to blame. They both have their own set of faults. Bob and Lee should have received a lot of things (Money, credits, awards) that they have been denied. At the same time I would really love to know how much Bob is asking for the tapes. A very valued member of this board, a good friend of mine, told me Bob asked for a rediculas amount of money for them. NOT royalties, a rediculas amount of money for the tapes. At that point it was just dropped.
Bob didn't ask for a sale amount, because he never wanted and still doesn't want to sell them. What he asked for were royalties. That argument aside, Bob still wants to release them himself, but the Osbourne's WILL NOT LET HIM. Who's fault exactly then is it, that we may never get to hear these recordings? It's the Osbourne's way or NO WAYaxeman_12656 wrote:Just making conversation.sytharnia wrote:this is one of the best trolling I have seen here....well done axeman
But I do stand by my opinion.... My opinion is they (The O's and Bob) are both to blame. They both have their own set of faults. Bob and Lee should have received a lot of things (Money, credits, awards) that they have been denied. At the same time I would really love to know how much Bob is asking for the tapes. A very valued member of this board, a good friend of mine, told me Bob asked for a rediculas amount of money for them. NOT royalties, a rediculas amount of money for the tapes. At that point it was just dropped.
Thanks for posting. I'd forgotten that Bob's manager met with the Osbourne's representative more than a year before Sharon announced they were doing a 30th Anniversary edition. Sharon wanted to do a buy out which would give her complete control of the tapes. Bob and Lee were hardly acknowledged in the box set, there's no doubt Sharon would've cut the tapes to pieces to sell her version of events. In my opinion, Bob was right to insist on getting only a royalty and retaining ownership of the tapes. Hopefully he'll find a way of releasing his tapes in their entirety and we'll get to hear what really went on. I totally believe that neither Bob nor Lee were consulted about what material was going to be released, there's no communication between them and the Osbournes.shred1 wrote:BraveWords.com: You've mentioned that you have rehearsal tapes and writing tapes and other historical audio documents of those years. Can those be released?
Bob Daisley: "It's a legal issue with somebody's performance. You have to get them to sign off on their performance. I have Ozzy singing and Randy playing and I have to say, fans of that music would love this stuff. Even though they are not of studio quality, it's not bad. I went to my manager who went to their representative, and told them I had all of these recordings of rehearsals, writing sessions, songs that no one has heard, sections that did not get used, tonnes of stuff. For the 30th anniversary, why not do a deal and release all this stuff? But they didn't want to do it. All Sharon wanted to do was to buy everything for a measly sum and then release it. I said, 'no way, this stuff's gold. You either do it my way, meaning I get a royalty this time, or no deal.' But I have should have always got a royalty. They wouldn't do it. I said, 'I am not handing it over to you to make a fortune.' The main reason was they could have edited it, taken us out of it again or pieced it together and go about rewriting history once again. Ozzy and Randy did everything is what they will have you believe. It's too bad this unreleased stuff that I have has been unheard by anyone for 30 years."
Maybe he has the tracks up because he can. It's his performance. He's allowed too. The reason he can't release the Grail Tapes is because it's not just him on those tapes, even if he wanted to release them for free, he's not allowed too without permission from every person on those tapes.shred1 wrote:Acknowledged. No. Consulted. Yes.
Bob has NO exclusive right to release this 'jam' stuff - especially when its inherent value is the presence of Randy Rhoads. Not Bob.
Bob is giving away his bass tracks on his website. He knows without Randy on them, they have no real monetary value.
Its all in my book, mate!
True, I said bass playing, should have said bass tracks. If the only famous band Bob had been in was Blizzard Of Ozz, then I would agree, he may be trading on someone elses glory, but thats not the case. If it were, he could have and probably would have released several books by now titled, "My Time With Randy Rhoads, Volume 1-5" and made a small fortune. Your statement simply doesn't ring true.shred1 wrote:I wrote that the bass tracks on Bob's site have no monetary value. They don't.
Don't twist my words, please.
And as to the tapes - you are correct - he can't release them. So why did he bring them up?
To further his agenda, in my opinion, and in this case, try and make the Osbournes look like the villians.
Notice he didn't mention how the Rhoads estate feels about these tapes, and they need to approve them too.
Again, I think, more so than ever, that Bob is trading on someone else's glory.
As far as Bob's storytelling...... the sin of omission is the same as lying.
