Lemmy comments on Randy (Lets Discuss)

[sik_kreations]

What about Criss Oliva from Savatage? He died tragically at a young age and he hasn't become a huge legend. I always liked his playing. I don't see Criss getting mentioned much or becoming better.

well randy was in a slightly bigger "name" band than criss....to a degree outside of the metal community randy is still an unknown name as well

ya ive worn my rr shirt.. and sometimes there like whos that guitar player... or isnt that the guy who died in a plane crash.. but dont member the name type shit. but i think he is probably more known in the age group of 40 to 60. or atleast people that were of music listening age around the time he died.

[timothy]

Classic Rock Revisited: MOTÖRHEAD were the support act for Ozzy [Osbourne] back on the "Blizzard Of Ozz" tour. I am a huge fan of Randy Rhoads. What was he really like?

Lemmy: He was really a good guy. I never could get over how incredibly little he was. He was little like Ronnie James Dio, they were little guys but they had a lot of heart. You would never believe that voice came out of Ronnie James' s body. It was the same way with Randy because he had small hands because he was a little fellow. Boy, could he play guitar. He became an even better guitar player after he died. It is a well-known mystery that guitar players suddenly get better once they are dead. Buddy Holly was the first. Stevie Ray Vaughan is known by a lot more people than had ever heard of him when he was alive.




Now before anyone gets pissed, it's clear that Lemmy isn't bashing Randy. But what do you all think about the idea that guitar players get better once they are dead? I agree with Lemmy's statement but i don't think its just guitar players. I think its just people in general. Seems like after someone passes we only remember the positives... and thats not really a bad thing. Whats your thoughts?

I believe it's people in common, but Randy's life was cut so short that we never got much of his GOD GIFTED TALENT and man do I mean GOD GIFTED. It's a total shame we only got the little bit we got, but at least we got some. I guess it's kind of like what they say about love, It's better to have been loved than to never been loved at all, I think that how the saying goes. Anyway sorry to stray off the topic I just found the Randy's Face book site tonight in that linked me over to this sight, now it's about four hours past my bed time and I'm going to be a tired old dog tomorrow at work....

[AceVader]

Classic Rock Revisited: MOTÖRHEAD were the support act for Ozzy [Osbourne] back on the "Blizzard Of Ozz" tour. I am a huge fan of Randy Rhoads. What was he really like?

Lemmy: He was really a good guy. I never could get over how incredibly little he was. He was little like Ronnie James Dio, they were little guys but they had a lot of heart. You would never believe that voice came out of Ronnie James' s body. It was the same way with Randy because he had small hands because he was a little fellow. Boy, could he play guitar. He became an even better guitar player after he died. It is a well-known mystery that guitar players suddenly get better once they are dead. Buddy Holly was the first. Stevie Ray Vaughan is known by a lot more people than had ever heard of him when he was alive.




Now before anyone gets pissed, it's clear that Lemmy isn't bashing Randy. But what do you all think about the idea that guitar players get better once they are dead? I agree with Lemmy's statement but i don't think its just guitar players. I think its just people in general. Seems like after someone passes we only remember the positives... and thats not really a bad thing. Whats your thoughts?

I believe it's people in common, but Randy's life was cut so short that we never got much of his GOD GIFTED TALENT and man do I mean GOD GIFTED. It's a total shame we only got the little bit we got, but at least we got some. I guess it's kind of like what they say about love, It's better to have been loved than to never been loved at all, I think that how the saying goes. Anyway sorry to stray off the topic I just found the Randy's Face book site tonight in that linked me over to this sight, now it's about four hours past my bed time and I'm going to be a tired old dog tomorrow at work....

Welcome to this little corner of the internet. Im sure you'll find a lot of great stuff here.

[Vtrockgod]

I do agree with Lemmy in that everybody is more popular after they pass away, especially when it's a tragedy. For example, I always thought SVR was a great guitar player. But as good as Jimi? No. Now that's just my opinion and everybody has their own. But I don't think you would hear the "SVR vs. Jimi" if he was still alive. However, the difference between Jimi, SVR and RR (once again, my opinion) is that the first two had the opportunity to reach their full potential, or at least their full potential in that particular niche (I wouldn't have been shocked if Hendrix had collaborated with Miles Davis had he lived.) RR was getting better and we didn't get the opportunity to hear his remarkable talent fully developed.

[The_Scratch]

I can't really argue with Lemmy... he's a grandfather of Rock. The guys been around since the 60's playing with the likes of The Beatles, Hendrix, the Stones etc.
He's lived through 5 generations of musicians and has more stories than many could imagine.

He's right.
In many ways a player does seem to become "better" after they die in the sense that they are noticed more.
people always wonder what could have been.

[Paul Wolfe]

He's right. In many ways a player does seem to become "better" after they die in the sense that they are noticed more.

And in Randy's case he didn't have a chance to put out anything less-than-steller after Diary... EVH was considered a guitar god right up 'til about 1984 when his playing became the standard instead of the cutting edge. Randy never got to the point of being anything but cutting edge during his lifetime.

[Stiltzkin]

Bingo!

[Sky]

I can't really argue with Lemmy... he's a grandfather of Rock. The guys been around since the 60's playing with the likes of The Beatles, Hendrix, the Stones etc.
He's lived through 5 generations of musicians and has more stories than many could imagine.

He's right.
In many ways a player does seem to become "better" after they die in the sense that they are noticed more.
people always wonder what could have been.

Lemmy may have been around since the 60s but he NEVER played with Hendrix, The Beatles or The Stones. He was a roadie for Hendrix though.

[Paul Wolfe]

Maybe he didn't play with the Beatles or the Stones, but he was a contemporary of theirs. Lemmy was around for the birth of rock 'n' roll, so his viewpoint holds a bit of weight... he roomed with Noel Redding, so it's possible he played with Hendrix... he definitely got up close and personal with the guy, so he had first hand experience to compare Jimi and Randy...

[The_Scratch]

Lemmy may have been around since the 60s but he NEVER played with Hendrix, The Beatles or The Stones. He was a roadie for Hendrix though.

...Roadies can't play?

... not sure of the specific source material, but an interview I watched with LEMMY he specifically stated that he did jam with each and all of them... whether it was serious or just goofing around he doesn't elaborate, but the quote is from Lemmy himself, who am I to argue.

Just because he didn't record with them, perform on stage or have pics taken with them doesn't mean he didn't jam at a party, in a hotel room or goof off on bass with them.
He said he played with them... thats good enough for me.

I have jammed with Sebastian Bach, Alanis Morrisette and Reb Beach... can I prove it, NO, but that doesn't mean it NEVER happened. It does however give me slightly better insight into each one of them as people and how they function in that capacity. Even if only slightly.

[Paul Wolfe]

Just because he didn't record with them, perform on stage or have pics taken with them doesn't mean he didn't jam at a party, in a hotel room or goof off on bass with them.

He said he played with them... that's good enough for me.

Good enough for me as well... you'll have to elaborate on your jamming there sometime, sir... sounds like you might have some interesting stories.

[Sky]

Maybe he didn't play with the Beatles or the Stones, but he was a contemporary of theirs. Lemmy was around for the birth of rock 'n' roll, so his viewpoint holds a bit of weight... he roomed with Noel Redding, so it's possible he played with Hendrix... he definitely got up close and personal with the guy, so he had first hand experience to compare Jimi and Randy...

Of course Lemmy watched Randy and Jimi play, I liked reading what he said about both guitarists. And I agree with what he said about guitarists getting 'better' after death. But I've never heard Lemmy say that he played/jammed with Hendrix and I'd be interested to see the quotes because they seem to be quite well-hidden. It's just that people often seem to misread, misinterpret or elaborate on what they've read and seen....

Lemmy interview with Kevin O Donnell March 2010

"I was sleeping on [Jimi Hendrix's roadie] Neville Chester's floor — he was sharing a flat with Noel Redding, so whenever they needed an extra pair of hands I was right there. I didn't get the job for any talent or anything. But I did see Jimi play a lot. Twice a night for about three months. I'd seen him play backstage too.

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