Randy's Les Paul

Stewie · Post by **Stewie** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:05 pm

Since when is it available? Cause.. I would prefer ivory instead of aphine white

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:53 am

this is where i seen it
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=512591

i think its only available in the US apparently epiphone have a bigger catalogue of gear over there

Post by **Stiltzkin** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:04 pm

the reason I don't go with the Epi's is that they have an alder top

not that alder is bad in anyway, but I don't think it belongs
in a LP. LP's oughta be all mahogany or mahogany maple

however, GrassRoots has some cool guitars for a reasonable price

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Stewie · Post by **Stewie** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:08 pm

Hmm, grassroots looks cool, but I'm going for the Epiphone..
The Ivory guitar doesn't have a good review on musiciansfriend, but the ratings are good tough

alex1251 · Post by **alex1251** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:56 pm

rice_pudding wrote:
alex1251 wrote:i just got an epiphone les paul custom in antique ivory and it looks like randy's les paul IMO. check on ebay for images. Hopefully one day i can afford a REAL gibson.
i got a Epi LP custom too

are you thinking of changing the pickups?

im changing mine next week (unless i mess it up )

i'll let you know how good the results are if your interested?

yeah, i dont know yet, but let me know, i got mine off of musiciansfriend, i posted a review but they havent posted it on yet, i had ordered it in alpine white but it came broken so i returned it and they cancelled my order cause epiphone doesnt make them in alpine white anymore according to them, so i got it in anitque ivory which i would have gotten in the first place but my friends said the ivory one was ugly in that picture. It looks like randys LP. Im kinda broke right now cause im a teen, ahaha, but id put some real gibson 57 gold humbuckers or seymour duncans. Check guitarheads.net or guitarnecks.net im not sure which one but they have pickups for cheap there but im not sure if they are any good. The samples sound good though.

alex1251 · Post by **alex1251** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:59 pm

and apparently it is no longer 539.99 which is how much i got it for, it is now 499.99 such assholes online stores are. Whatever.

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:05 am

alex1251 wrote:
yeah, i dont know yet, but let me know, i got mine off of musiciansfriend, i posted a review but they havent posted it on yet, i had ordered it in alpine white but it came broken so i returned it and they cancelled my order cause epiphone doesnt make them in alpine white anymore according to them, so i got it in anitque ivory which i would have gotten in the first place but my friends said the ivory one was ugly in that picture. It looks like randys LP. Im kinda broke right now cause im a teen, ahaha, but id put some real gibson 57 gold humbuckers or seymour duncans. Check guitarheads.net or guitarnecks.net im not sure which one but they have pickups for cheap there but im not sure if they are any good. The samples sound good though.

yeah ive heard those gibson pickups can really help you nail the crazy train tone.

i'll leave a post once ive changed the pickup and given it a good playing or ill pm you.

just a warning though my memory is bad so i might forget, if you dont hear nothing from me for a while pm me and slap some sense into me

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:13 am

Stiltzkin wrote:the reason I don't go with the Epi's is that they have an alder top

not that alder is bad in anyway, but I don't think it belongs
in a LP. LP's oughta be all mahogany or mahogany maple

however, GrassRoots has some cool guitars for a reasonable price

yeah im kinda with you there, i dont understand what the hell epiphone are doing with their construction these days they seem to lack consistency.

over the last 2 years they've made LP customs with
mahogany body + maple top
mahogany body + alder top
mahogany/alder body +presumably no top

why cant they make their mind up

ive heard one guy say that he persistently questioned epiphone about it and they eventualy revealed that they basicaly use whatever wood is available at the time and just slap a bit of mahogany in somewhere... course he may have been lying

anyhow my LP has deffineatly got some alder in it somewhere, you can easily tell by the tone.

alex1251 · Post by **alex1251** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:41 am

Stewie wrote:Hmm, grassroots looks cool, but I'm going for the Epiphone..
The Ivory guitar doesn't have a good review on musiciansfriend, but the ratings are good tough

it is a pretty solid guitar and the finish is beautiful. I bought it from there and you should get it while it is still 499.99 i got it when it was 40 bucks more expensive. But starting around the 20th fret it is kinda hard to reach all the way to the top so just warning you there. Is that how all les pauls are? Cause if they are now i know what they mean when I read online and in magazines that Randy was frustrated by the limitations of his current guitars and he went to Grover Jackson at Charvel guitars to get a custom made Jackson.

Stewie · Post by **Stewie** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:25 pm

I can see what you mean by reaching the low strings at the 20th fret on the pictures.. But thats a problem with all les pauls, no? I currently got a Jackson guitar, so I don't have any experiance with Les Pauls or anything

Do you think those american music shops would ship a les paul custom ivory to Belgium, Europe..? I don't want to recieve it broken like you did and need to send it back

NoQuattro · Post by **NoQuattro** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:22 pm

Yeah, reaching the up high stuff is a huge pain in the ass because the neck/body joint is so huge on a Les Paul. If you've got long fingers, it ain't so bad.

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:18 pm

alex1251 wrote: yeah, i dont know yet, but let me know, i got mine off of musiciansfriend, i posted a review but they havent posted it on yet, i had ordered it in alpine white but it came broken so i returned it and they cancelled my order cause epiphone doesnt make them in alpine white anymore according to them, so i got it in anitque ivory which i would have gotten in the first place but my friends said the ivory one was ugly in that picture. It looks like randys LP. Im kinda broke right now cause im a teen, ahaha, but id put some real gibson 57 gold humbuckers or seymour duncans. Check guitarheads.net or guitarnecks.net im not sure which one but they have pickups for cheap there but im not sure if they are any good. The samples sound good though.

i changed my pickup yesterday, ill post up a review of sorts once i've given it a good run for its money

alex1251 · Post by **alex1251** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:13 am

rice_pudding wrote: i changed my pickup yesterday, ill post up a review of sorts once i've given it a good run for its money

what kind of pickups?

rice_pudding · Post by **rice_pudding** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:36 pm

alex1251 wrote:
rice_pudding wrote: i changed my pickup yesterday, ill post up a review of sorts once i've given it a good run for its money
what kind of pickups?

i stuck a seymour duncan pearly gates in the bridge

i dont really know what to say for a review since i dont know what pickup, if any, you would use. also i think epiphone use alnico V's now instead of II's. i try to review the pickup based on the general advantages any similar model should offer then ill review the pickup based on its own character.

anyhow, after making the switch i think it was worth the money, the new pickup has a broader harmonic spectrum and more clarity/articulation. It also has a bit more sustain and its deffineatly a lot more sensitive; it will pick up even the smallest amount of string vibration. based on this i would say that after market pickups are worthwhile. the guitar probably sounds 15-25% better overal. the only bad thing is that the extra clarity makes your own mistakes more apparent

The pearly gates itself is a very bright pickup compared to the stock epiphones, so much in fact that i wasnt sure i liked it at first. It was just very overpowering at first. But it grew on me quickly and its not that it doesnt have bass and mids its just that the treble really stands out. (even with the treble rolled completly off its still pretty bright and has more clarity than the epiphones)

It has a really sweet upper mid range that adds a lot of drive to the sound and rich bell like highs that dont thin out. This gives it real aggression with some distortion (similar ballpark to tribute tone). the bass is subtle but deffineatly there, same with the lower mids although they are probably the least present. Matched with GHS boomers this gives a very metallic sound so i keep the tone rolled down half way.

One last thing to note it has a good amount of output, more than the stock epis in fact. This surprised me since the PG is supposed to have in Duncans words 'moderate output'. Deffineatly gives enough drive for Blizzard of Ozz style rock/metal

overal a good pickup for playing blues, classic rock, and old 80s metal, i think im going to a a seymour 59 or alnico pro II to the neck position so that i can get a wider range of warm jazzy sounds

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:57 pm

Forget about Epiphones.. Get an Edwards off eBay!