Rolling Stone Magazine Article From 1982

CHI-TOWN2 · Post by **CHI-TOWN2** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:08 pm

besides, EVH holds his guitar way too high....

Madman56 · Post by **Madman56** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:42 pm

If I remember correctly, Rolling Stone ripped Blizzard of Ozz apart even more harshly in a review, if it wasn't them it was some other major magazine.

DayNah · Post by **DayNah** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:16 pm

What a jackass!

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 pm

It's interesting that one person's opinion from 25 years ago can bother so many people.

Now, why bash EVH? He was and is a great guitar player. He has done more for the guitar playing community than practically anyone since Hendrix. Eddie was an innovator and others copied him and built on the foundation he built. Even Randy did that.

As for not hearing people play VH at Guitar Center, is it because they prefer to play Randy's stuff or because they are afraid they can't pull off Ed's stuff? I hear people play all kinds of stuff at guitar stores, usually whatever is the popular trend today.

Post by **The Flying Dutchman** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:27 pm

RockyRhoads wrote:Now, why bash EVH? He was and is a great guitar player. He has done more for the guitar playing community than practically anyone since Hendrix. Eddie was an innovator and others copied him and built on the foundation he built. Even Randy did that.

Very true....

frank · Post by **frank** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:48 pm

RockyRhoads wrote:It's interesting that one person's opinion from 25 years ago can bother so many people.

Now, why bash EVH? He was and is a great guitar player. He has done more for the guitar playing community than practically anyone since Hendrix. Eddie was an innovator and others copied him and built on the foundation he built. Even Randy did that.

As for not hearing people play VH at Guitar Center, is it because they prefer to play Randy's stuff or because they are afraid they can't pull off Ed's stuff? I hear people play all kinds of stuff at guitar stores, usually whatever is the popular trend today.

haha rocky, you're so predictable. i expected your two cents to sound just like this. it's interesting that one thread can bother some people. randy went beyond mere fret-tapping and would be exploring new and exciting sonic excursions if he were still alive. mr rhoads takes a back seat to no one. i rest my case.

Six_Strung_Out · Post by **Six_Strung_Out** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:48 pm

some of VH stuff is dated but other songs still sound fresh today, like panama thats a good rock song for all the ages

Yes, Panama has one short lead by EVH that deserves respect. Randy could play a very long lead solo, with the melody never crashing into empty notes, time & time again.

EVH is very good on using his guitar as both a strong rhythm instrument and lead guitar. His rhythm technique is superior. EVH does some slick trick magic with his guitar too.

Nonetheless, Randy made so many excellent melodic lead guitar solos (beyond Panama) that the leader in this specialty deserves a forum like the one we are all typing in right now....

frank · Post by **frank** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:55 pm

YEAH!

CHI-TOWN2 · Post by **CHI-TOWN2** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:49 pm

when you take someone else's music {children of the grave} ....play it live, really just wing it, on a non-descript night in May 1981...in cleveland Ohio with about 4000 people watching....and turn it into a beautifully crafted peice of music....play it better than the original artist ever dreamed of playing it....that is special...much like Wayne Gretzky in hockey, Randy Rhoads just heard and played a "different" game than everyone else.....who knows why...just a rare gift.

Post by **skezza** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:59 pm

CHI-TOWN2 wrote:when you take someone else's music {children of the grave} ....play it live, really just wing it, on a non-descript night in May 1981...in cleveland Ohio with about 4000 people watching....and turn it into a beautifully crafted peice of music....play it better than the original artist ever dreamed of playing it....that is special...much like Wayne Gretzky in hockey, Randy Rhoads just heard and played a "different" game than everyone else.....who knows why...just a rare gift.

totally agree with you on children of the grave yeah. that solo was a masterpiece!

cableguyxx · Post by **cableguyxx** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:15 am

CHI-TOWN2 · Post by **CHI-TOWN2** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:28 am

plus he hated playing the Sabbath stuff....

....imagine if he'd have took a year off after the 82 tour, sat back and just worked on "yeah..this is what i wanna do next time i play live"....the mind boggles!!!..he was starting to be known for his live playing...the squeals and fills etc....he"d of thought.."oh yeah??....think that was something??..you aint heard nothin yet!!"..he wasnt getting all those Jackson's made just to look at em

Post by **skezza** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:03 am

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ozz ... f_a_madman

theres one link, however i was scrolling through and found some other interesting ones:
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ozz ... black_rain
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ozz ... n_to_earth
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ozz ... the_wicked
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ozz ... 74/tribute

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:52 am

frank wrote: haha rocky, you're so predictable. i expected your two cents to sound just like this.

Predictable? Me? I think you mean I'm not wishy washy with my opinions, right?

frank wrote:randy went beyond mere fret-tapping and would be exploring new and exciting sonic excursions if he were still alive. mr rhoads takes a back seat to no one. i rest my case.

I believe that Ed went "beyond mere fret tapping" as well, sir. There is no doubt that Randy would have continued to grow and evolve. But Ed has grown and evolved as well. Listen to Van Halen III, his playing is profoundly different than on Van Halen. I also never said that Randy took a backseat, I merely said he built up a foundation constructed by Ed. That's not all he did, but it is part of what he did.

J.D. CONSIDINE wrote:They're barely original yet perfectly serviceable, thanks to Osbourne's X factor, guitarist Randy Rhoads. A flashy, powerhouse performer, Rhoads is a junior-league Eddie Van Halen Ã¢â‚¬â€œ bustling with chops but somewhat short on imagination.

At the time this was written, Ed was KING and everyone was considered a "junior-league Eddie Van Halen". If I'm not mistaken, even Randy admitted to ripping him off with his live solo. In addition, Randy said he was lacking for ideas when it came time to write Diary, so saying he was "short on imagination" wasn't so far off the mark, was it?

Blizzard and Diary are all we have of Randy's post QR song-writing. If he'd had the time he wanted on Diary, maybe all of us would consider the present version to be lacking... it's something to consider.

Paul Wolfe · Post by **Paul Wolfe** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:56 am

CHI-TOWN2 wrote:when you take someone else's music {children of the grave} ....play it live, really just wing it, on a non-descript night in May 1981...in cleveland Ohio with about 4000 people watching....and turn it into a beautifully crafted peice of music....play it better than the original artist ever dreamed of playing it....that is special...much like Wayne Gretzky in hockey, Randy Rhoads just heard and played a "different" game than everyone else.....who knows why...just a rare gift.

Apply the same statement with a couple changes - make it Ice Cream Man and drop the part about playing in Cleveland - and you could be talking about Ed.

In my opinion, Randy was great - maybe the best, but Ed was (and is) great as well.

Ultimate Rhoads

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