Re: Two low flying buzzes was enough...
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:31 am
Have you seen check-six.com ? Just one of many resources.
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You may be right I just never see anything online except the reports and not much from the people that were there.Rhoads-Fan wrote:Jodi said that Randy was sitting in the front seat....so, hey what do I know? I believe what I believe.
I believe Rachel passed out and Randy _tried_ to pull her off the controls.
I'm sure you're not a lazy person and I'm not implying that you are.
RR.TK would shut down almost any talk of the accident, that's why I came here years ago.
IndifferenceRhoads-Fan wrote:Still don't know what "meh" means.
You can only make a crime scene out of what you have infront of you, toxicology reports and evidence before the crash i.e eye witnesses and Don Airey's photos. If i remember rightly Randy's body was found outside the garage. Aycocks was on top of one the vehicles inside the garage. Rachel's body burnt inside what was left of the plane. The plane exploded on impact with a secondary explosion when the cars gas was ignited. So anyone guessing on where they had been seated etc it would of been mentioned from the guys on the ground. So unless you had a photo pre-crash of the seating arrangements you'd still be guessing, so would the cops. No forensics or inspector columbo types could make this one up. But they need to have a detailed report incase this crash was not an accident. Did Aycock want to kill his wife, well if he did he would of had to of ploughed the plane close to the tour bus as she was situated just outside the tour bus door. Did he hate her that much that he'd take out other lives, including his own ???. I think that one is a little far fetched, but he was coming down from coke and could of had a bit of a mad moment, but it's pure speculation. Plus if he had that intention why didn't he do it when Don and Jake Duncan went up in the plane on the early flight. That's one thing i have never found out or it may of slipt my grey matter. Did the first flight include swooping low on the tour bus ?... I better not get into this subject too deeply or i'm going go down the conspiracy road myself. Too much info can do a man's head in.Shockwave wrote: I believe it originated from what someone supposedly saw when the plane was coming in that last time. I have not read any of the books out there but I believe it Was Don Airey who saw something as he was taking pictures the whole time while on the ground. Still no one could eee in detail what was going on and maybe just caught a glimpse of what was going on.
The most telling thing that there is more to the crash than we know is from that audio Romeo Rose posted a few years ago of him talking to Mike Smalt(the crash cop who didn't know he was being recorded. I remember listening to it in my way to work at like 5:00am and then someone else told Romeo he could get in trouble since he recorded a cop without permission so he took it down only a couple hours after it was posted. I wish I would have saved it or Romeo would post or share it with us privately. I gave a detailed explanation here on the forum but for the life of me I cannot find the thread(I have looked a few different times). I don't want to speculate what the cop said but that post I made tells all and there is a lot more to it than we know...
Yeah, in regards to that last paragraph. I noticed that a few years back. I ran across that photo of the garage and was like, is that what I think it is?!? Can't really tell about the top of the car on the left, but next to it amidst the rubble is definitely someone sticking out. Based on that, I'm sure what I thought was on top of the car, is someone as well. Trying to be tactful. I'm just in disbelief that the photo is readily available for anyone to see. I wasn't looking for photos of that awful day, just stumbled upon it.Shockwave wrote:The whole Aycock thing and coke I don't care about. Since they said they found trace amounts that means it was almost out of his system. Coke last 2-3 days in your system after you have done it last so that tells me he had not done it in at least 36 hours. Everyone was doing it back then so it's really no that big of a deal that they found it during the autopsy.
I remember parts and pieces of the cop audio, it's been 4-6 years since I have heard it but don't want to say anything unless I'm positive. . I welcome someone to try to find my post as I want to refresh my memory as well and it will all come back to me once I read it again.
It could be as simple as he dove the plane to quick and if Randy or Rachel were standing slightly and fell forward it was all over...the heart attack thing is just to far fetched to me unless it's proven in a report somewhere.
Not gruesome but don't read below if you don't like that stuff or want to know more about the crash bodies...
One new thing I read a few weeks ago from someone that struck me was that he said you could see the bodies in a couple of those photos that we always see of the crash. All I will say is zoom in on the pics and then read the crash report, it tells you where the bodies were found in the garage. For one body I am 95% sure it's just that in the pic, the other one I was say 30% as it's hard to tell but somewhat of an outline, and the last I cannot locate at all.
Is this the picture you're talking about? I enlarged and brightened it up big time. Just looks like a bunch of rubble to me.dmnjr wrote:Yeah, in regards to that last paragraph. I noticed that a few years back. I ran across that photo of the garage and was like, is that what I think it is?!? Can't really tell about the top of the car on the left, but next to it amidst the rubble is definitely someone sticking out. Based on that, I'm sure what I thought was on top of the car, is someone as well. Trying to be tactful. I'm just in disbelief that the photo is readily available for anyone to see. I wasn't looking for photos of that awful day, just stumbled upon it.
Well one theory could be as simple as this. Rachel and Randy may have been a bit freaked out with the plane swooping the tour bus. If he was flying in a too low. Did Randy stand up to lean over to Aycock to get him to pull the stick up, would his weight moving be enough to upset the ballast of the plane, just enought to dipp the plane's wing which hit the bus and then it cart wheeled into the tree. I think it then nose ended upwards and slammed into the roof. I'm writing this from memory but i'm sure that's as close as what any witness mentioned. That's how Randy was found out side the garage. Did he take his seat belt off ? Was Rachel still belted up in the plane was Aycock's belt fastened. It's all stuff you'd never know until you found the belt clips of the plane. The largest piece of the plane was the size of an old style rotary phone. The wing which snapped off and one of its landing wheel struts. Both found outside the garage, the wing being further away next to the tour bus.Shockwave wrote:Just reading around all the birthday stuff in some sites prior to heading into work here. The one that sticks out the most is the plane buzzed the bus successfully twice prior to to 3rd attempt. It's likely everyone was enjoying it and that's why it was done, on that 3rd attempt who knows what happened in the cockpit.
Man, just twice and they would have been all set!!!