Alex wrote:Sorry, he had one credit on Blizzard. Either way, I am of the opinion that it is their own fault for handling it so badly back in 1980 and 1981. If they wanted to be properly paid, they shouldn't have signed what they did back then. It was a bad move on their part, and they are now paying for it.
If they are getting paid for more than their performance this time, it should be because Sharon in one way or another said okay.
Its because of that tight fisted jew bitch that these will probably never see the light of day. If she wasn't such a corrupt business woman like her father, fucking people over. These would of been released no problem and no questions asked.
Sorry shaun have to agree with the others on this. Sharon is a business women and a good one at that. And as she owns the rights to these albums she can do with them what she likes. I have a lot of time for sharon, she tells it like it is and if people dont like it its tough. you have to admire her for her balls.
Im confident these will surface as there is definitely a market for them. We just have to be patient, remember we've had nothing other than tribute for 30 years so a few months more aint gonna make the difference.
Sky wrote:First time I've posted here but had to ask where you got the information that Bob and Lee signed anything in 1980/81?
I do not know all the details (as I said earlier), but since we know that Randy had a contract (which Sharon supposedly changed after his death), obviously Bob and Lee had to have signed something too.
Either way, I still believe that they only have themselves to blame. I don't work without knowing full well how and when I will be reimbursed for my work. If the details are shoddy, I simply don't do the job. Do you think Ozzy would ever sign a poorly written contract, or do something without signing one?
Neither Bob nor Lee would have had a contract with Sharon because she had nothing to do with Blizzard of Ozz, the band, when it was formed and she wasn't involved with Ozzy. David Arden managed the band for Jet Records. Consequently any contract signed at that time would have been with Don Arden/Jet Records. It was interesting to read your suppositions but, like you said, you don't know all the details. I personally would never 'blame' anyone without knowing the facts but each to his own. I'm sure that if people are interested they'll read what Bob has to say about the situation in his autobiography. Meanwhile, I just hope that the original recordings of Diary and Blizzard are released and that Bob and Lee finally receive payment for the performances that make such an extraordinary difference to the quality of both of these albums.
"Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away." - Elvis Presley
Just because someone has "balls" doesn't give them a license to be a wicked asshole and do unethical things either (as the Osbourne camp had done MORE than once...).
"Balls" was saying 'screw you' to Lollapalooza and creating an Ozzfest.
"being an unethical disgusting human being" is doing the re-records they did w/Blizzard and Diary, pissing all over Randy's legacy and NOT continuing it like they should and they owe (again, among other things they've done....).
DMRX wrote:I Think this whole thing got Outta Line about 4 Pages Ago---Way Off Topic now
How has it gone off topic ? We are still discussing the reasons why these may or may not come out. $haron being a key player and one of the main reasons why they have been put on hold. Until we can prove or speculate differently. A topic doesn't necessarily have to stay with the discussion this could go on to be a 1000 poster and 20 pages later LOL!. It could be bigger then Moby dicks cod piece.
Tito wrote:man idol have you got a bit of mel gibson in ya??? SHES A JEW WHOREEEEE!!!!!!!!!lol!!!!
That's me just getting warmed up... Or do you want some more LOL!! No Dave was saying we went off topic 4 pages ago ?. But we don't need to focus on $haron's religion to spoil the topic. I liked the Mad Max trilogy but i'm not to keen on his Lethal Weapon. Tito is this a line from one of his films enlighting me.
no its from the mel gibson domestic thing he had not long ago with his ex ,and when he got pulled over by a cop for dui and went on a rant about the cop bieng a jew...a mix of both..i was just trying to add a bit of levity cuz im sure we have people of jewish decent on here and i didnt think it was right for you to take your frustration out on a certain race is all...dont get me wrong i totally get where your coming from as far as the frustration with all the bullshit, but i felt you got a lil fresh with the tight fisted jew bitch comment...dont take me like im trying to talk down to you because im not at all..i truly believe that a persons beliefs no matter what they are should be respected.but should also be discussed in a private forum not a public one..as far as the personal jabs to ones race etc..anyway i have alot of respect for you idol and if i had half an hour with that sexy lady sharon we would all be seeing everything as far as randy is concerned!!!!!!!!!!!!
Before it is allowed back on topic I think most people know I am interested in politics and the Palestinian issue and more broader than that Arab Middle Eastern history.
Back to what Shaun said, what you said wasn't true either because Sharon is not Jewish! and under the rules of the Jewish faith she doesn't qualify to be recognised as a Jew either.
To be recognised as a Jew you have to have a Jewish Mother because they Jewish faith follows the Mothers blood line not the fathers! Sharons Mum was an Irish Catholic which means Sharon is attached to the Church of Rome. Even though her father Don was a Jew she would have to convert and then it would have to be recognised by the British Jewish council which is almost impossible and when it is managed it doesn't mean it will be recognised by all strands of the Jewish faith.
About 2 years ago a woman converted to Juidaism when she married her Jewish husband, she had children and when they were older she tried to get them entry into the local Jewish faith school and was refused because under the strict rules that they observe she is not a Jew!!! it created a huge fury in Britain with Jews and non Jews because she and her children were being discriminated against but the strict rules of Juidaism did not change.
SOOOOO for Sharon to be a Jew she will have had to convert and I am not sure she has? so if we bare what I said in mind Shaun you will have to alter what you said and say what is more acurate! and that is that she is a BITCH!.........the other bit doesn't apply.
Cologne she'll wear silver and americard, She'll drive a beetle car and beat you down at cool Canasta. And when the clothes are strewn don't be afraid of the room touch the fullness of her breast feel the love of her caress she will be your living end.
It is still an ethnic slur just the same. I've said some pretty colorful shit on these boards in anger, but I've never gone down that particular road.
Both Tito and Matt are right.
T.
Whenever I put on Blizzard or Diary, what a wonderful, delicate furious beast.... I MISS you, man!
I am by no means defending Sharon, but I can't help but like her after watching the Japanese doc. You can tell how much she loves Randy.
Plus, Randy sausaged* her, immediately putting her in the "touched by an angel" category by my calculations.
*Copyright Cpt Matt Sparrow 2010. Used without permission.