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 Post subject: Re: The thread of guitar related acquisitions.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:02 pm 
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But the neck was still too hot for my taste


well, yeah, but you'll have balance which is very VERY hard to acquire with what you just described.


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I want the neck to sound close to a Telly but I still want that humbucking sound

I think I will look at a P90


you will NEVER get a tele-sound through a P90.
Remember, a P90 is really nothing more than a fat singlecoil with no humcancelling :!:

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If I REMBER right the seymour Duncan motto is IF YOU CAN DREAM IT WE CAN BUILD IT


correction...if you can pay it we will build it :twisted: it's the same for everything custom really 8)

I agree that a p90 will never sound like a tele. If you want a tele sound you need 2 things. A guitar made out of ash with a maple neck and a tele pick up. That is it.

As far as balance it is not as hard as you think. The most popular combo for Seymour Duncan is a JB and a 59. The JB is a fairly hot pick up while the 59 is supposed to be like the PAF's of old. IOW it is a vintage low out put pick up. Dime used a Bill Lawrence XL500 which I have one and it is quite hot. Dime also used that 59 in the neck. The biggest thing to balance is how far from the strings the respective picks are.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:59 am 
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I agree that a p90 will never sound like a tele. If you want a tele sound you need 2 things. A guitar made out of ash with a maple neck and a tele pick up. That is it.

As far as balance it is not as hard as you think. The most popular combo for Seymour Duncan is a JB and a 59. The JB is a fairly hot pick up while the 59 is supposed to be like the PAF's of old. IOW it is a vintage low out put pick up. Dime used a Bill Lawrence XL500 which I have one and it is quite hot. Dime also used that 59 in the neck. The biggest thing to balance is how far from the strings the respective picks are.


A big part of a tele's sound is all that metal that is around the bridge....

as far as outputs go, I have a duncan quarter pound (14.5k) in the neck of my malmsteen strat and a tone rider blues pick up (7.2k) in the middle position and they live together fine because the height is balanced out


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:45 pm 
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As far as balance it is not as hard as you think. The most popular combo for Seymour Duncan is a JB and a 59. The JB is a fairly hot pick up while the 59 is supposed to be like the PAF's of old. IOW it is a vintage low out put pick up. Dime used a Bill Lawrence XL500 which I have one and it is quite hot. Dime also used that 59 in the neck. The biggest thing to balance is how far from the strings the respective picks are.


speaking from my own perspective, I once built a guitar(well, not so much build as assemble parts and putting on paint :P )
where I used a Seymour Duncan Custom in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck and the PAF Pro were
WAAAAYYY louder than the bridge...and the SD Custom is supposed to be a high-output PAF on steroids.
In this case, not so much :lol:


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Stiltzkin wrote:

speaking from my own perspective, I once built a guitar(well, not so much build as assemble parts and putting on paint :P )
where I used a Seymour Duncan Custom in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck and the PAF Pro were
WAAAAYYY louder than the bridge...and the SD Custom is supposed to be a high-output PAF on steroids.
In this case, not so much :lol:

Strange. I wonder if there was something wrong with teh Custom as they are indeed quite hot. I have had pick up go out for seemingly no reason or be weak. I could not figure it out. Paf pro's really are not that hot either.


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Stiltzkin wrote:
dannyahansen wrote:
As far as balance it is not as hard as you think. The most popular combo for Seymour Duncan is a JB and a 59. The JB is a fairly hot pick up while the 59 is supposed to be like the PAF's of old. IOW it is a vintage low out put pick up. Dime used a Bill Lawrence XL500 which I have one and it is quite hot. Dime also used that 59 in the neck. The biggest thing to balance is how far from the strings the respective picks are.


speaking from my own perspective, I once built a guitar(well, not so much build as assemble parts and putting on paint :P )
where I used a Seymour Duncan Custom in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck and the PAF Pro were
WAAAAYYY louder than the bridge...and the SD Custom is supposed to be a high-output PAF on steroids.
In this case, not so much :lol:


are you sure you wired it up right ????


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Yes.

But it could have something to do with the strings moving more at the neckspot and thus producing more
electric current i.e more output :)


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Stiltzkin wrote:
Yes.

But it could have something to do with the strings moving more at the neckspot and thus producing more
electric current i.e more output :)


I'm no electronics whiz but I'm pretty sure strings aren't suppose to produce electric current. :mrgreen:


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Dino wrote:
Stiltzkin wrote:
Yes.

But it could have something to do with the strings moving more at the neckspot and thus producing more
electric current i.e more output :)


I'm no electronics whiz but I'm pretty sure strings aren't suppose to produce electric current. :mrgreen:


no they don't :lol: I didn't express myself clear enough :oops:
what I meant was that the more the strings move(like they do in the neckspot)
the more current is produced by the pickup :) so the neck pickup would be
considerably louder than it's bridge companion given that they have around
the same amount of power.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:42 pm 
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Stiltzkin wrote:
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Stiltzkin wrote:
Yes.

But it could have something to do with the strings moving more at the neckspot and thus producing more
electric current i.e more output :)


I'm no electronics whiz but I'm pretty sure strings aren't suppose to produce electric current. :mrgreen:


no they don't :lol: I didn't express myself clear enough :oops:
what I meant was that the more the strings move(like they do in the neckspot)
the more current is produced by the pickup :) so the neck pickup would be
considerably louder than it's bridge companion given that they have around
the same amount of power.


I'm kidding ... I understood what you meant, but I don't believe that is your issue.
The placement of the pickups up and down the length of the strings will effect tone, but I don't believe it would have an effect on volume. That's more likely due to the overall height of the pickup and/or pole pieces, IMO.

Or maybe you just have a bad pickup. :?:


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